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Old 07-09-2018, 03:42 PM
 
Location: New York City
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“A major medical association is pulling its annual convention out of the city — saying its members no longer feel safe,” reports the San Francisco Chronicle. It’s a loss of approximately $40 million for the city and a warning to other cities with similar policies, like New York: You could be next.

Beautiful, hilly San Francisco has become known as the city where 20 pounds of poop was dumped on a sidewalk last week in a clear bag and remained there for hours. As The Post noted, “human waste-related complaints in San Francisco have skyrocketed 400 percent from 2008 to 2018,” and “In 2017 alone, more than 21,000 reports were received.”

What happened in San Francisco is obvious. It stopped prosecuting quality-of-life offenses and, unsurprisingly, the quality of life for the city’s residents and visitors decreased sharply.
https://nypost.com/2018/07/08/san-fr...-yorks-future/


I have absolutely ZERO doubt this is where we're headed with DeBozo in charge
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Old 07-09-2018, 03:57 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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I have absolutely ZERO doubt this is where we're headed with DeBozo in charge
I find that unlikely since our land use policies and infrastructure are incredibly different from those of San Francisco and the Bay Area as a whole. The paragraphs about permissibility I agree with, though permissibility in San Francisco is quite different from that in NYC. The last portion trying to make housing policy comparisons is almost complete dog**** though.

Additionally, there's no factoring in the basic geographic differences in the Bay Area and New York City. Living on the streets in San Francisco and Los Angeles is far easier and doesn't get cleaned up easily. Our winters here are brutal compared to those places. Our streets get washed by our year-round precipitation rather than a constant build up of urine and feces.

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Old 07-09-2018, 04:31 PM
 
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New York City is in no danger of looking like much of San Francisco does now (basically one large open homeless shelter).


For one thing money here isn't as totally liberal, progressive left democrat as in CA and in particular SF.


If or when things start tipping back towards the 1980's or whatever voters, or more importantly business/property owners and so forth will sit current mayor and or city council down. If that does not bring results in just one election you'll get someone like Rudy G. or even Bloomberg that has the balls to clean things up.


It happened before, and will happen again.


SF's problems are self inflicted and worse local politicians hiding behind "equality" or whatever haven't looked down and realized they have a pair.
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Old 07-09-2018, 04:34 PM
 
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here we go, blame De Blasio
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Old 07-09-2018, 04:45 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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New York City is in no danger of looking like much of San Francisco does now (basically one large open homeless shelter).


For one thing money here isn't as totally liberal, progressive left democrat as in CA and in particular SF.


If or when things start tipping back towards the 1980's or whatever voters, or more importantly business/property owners and so forth will sit current mayor and or city council down. If that does not bring results in just one election you'll get someone like Rudy G. or even Bloomberg that has the balls to clean things up.


It happened before, and will happen again.


SF's problems are self inflicted and worse local politicians hiding behind "equality" or whatever haven't looked down and realized they have a pair.
SF and the Bay Area did a lot of crazy things with its land use and tax policies and that's been true for several decades even back when there were sizable parts of the Bay Area (and even SF itself) that were not that liberal. Not only is San Francisco not building all that much housing--the entire Bay Area is not building much housing.

They also made a horrendous miscalculation with their transit system where they decided to build a rapid transit system (good) when they realized that the physical land constraints, and at a certain point, historical preservation in parts of San Francisco proper, meant they needed to make its large downtown employment center more accessible to people coming in via something other than driving. What they did was choose to go with an idiosyncratic broad gauge for their rapid transit BART system which meant that the system could not easily take over/re-use existing standard gauge tracks, bridges and right-of-ways in the area, could not be compatible with the future Caltrain system which serves Silicon Valley and South Bay, and could not do joint orders with other agencies without a significant retooling for their gauge. Also, they put goddamn CARPETING on a rapid transit system. WHO THE **** WAS RUNNING THIS ****?
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Old 07-09-2018, 11:24 PM
 
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New York City is in no danger of looking like much of San Francisco does now (basically one large open homeless shelter).


For one thing money here isn't as totally liberal, progressive left democrat as in CA and in particular SF.


If or when things start tipping back towards the 1980's or whatever voters, or more importantly business/property owners and so forth will sit current mayor and or city council down. If that does not bring results in just one election you'll get someone like Rudy G. or even Bloomberg that has the balls to clean things up.


It happened before, and will happen again.


SF's problems are self inflicted and worse local politicians hiding behind "equality" or whatever haven't looked down and realized they have a pair.
Having lived in California for awhile before ACÁ, the only way people could get Medicaid was to be over 65, under 21, blind, pregnant, or the parent of 5 kids. It was common to see homeless people missing body parts. You call that liberal?

There’s a lot of underutilized land in California that should be built for apartment rentals. There was considerable resistance towards this historically, though it is finally starting to happen in LA. Can’t have people’s small town fantasies be disrupted. Is this liberal?

Of course not. It’s neither liberal nor progressive. Right wing people call everything they don’t like liberal, but the massive homeless population of California is a creation of conservatives who hate liberal ideas like taxpayer supported medical insurance and apartments/urban living. Reagan was the governor of California and they had Republican Pete Wilson in the 1990s.
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Old 07-09-2018, 11:28 PM
 
Location: Nashville TN, Cincinnati, OH
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Having lived in California for awhile before ACÁ, the only way people could get Medicaid was to be over 65, under 21, blind, pregnant, or the parent of 5 kids. It was common to see homeless people missing body parts. You call that liberal?

There’s a lot of underutilized land in California that should be built for apartment rentals. There was considerable resistance towards this historically, though it is finally starting to happen in LA. Can’t have people’s small town fantasies be disrupted. Is this liberal?

Of course not. It’s neither liberal nor progressive. Right wing people call everything they don’t like liberal, but the massive homeless population of California is a creation of conservatives who hate liberal ideas like taxpayer supported medical insurance and apartments/urban living. Reagan was the governor of California and they had Republican Pete Wilson in the 1990s.
SF is a hot mess literally you cannot live in SF if you do not make 200k a year, be thankful you live in NYC is a much better city in every way. California liberals are not progressive either more like regressive even coming from a liberal.
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Old 07-09-2018, 11:38 PM
 
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SF is a hot mess literally you cannot live in SF if you do not make 200k a year, be thankful you live in NYC is a much better city in every way. California liberals are not progressive either more like regressive even coming from a liberal.
Oh I left NYC. In Barcelona. And I know all about California’s regressive policies.
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Old 07-10-2018, 02:17 AM
 
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I love how people blame one man for our cities issues. If you go by that logic, merry merry bloomberg f*cked this place up to get it to where it is now. He tried to hid and displace the middle income and poor and left us in a state of crisis for us regular people. But come on we know it wasn't just his doing.
When are people gonna realize a actual person in "power" has little control. They are a puppet on strings for many many other people to control and be the face of the public.
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Old 07-10-2018, 05:19 AM
 
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And I definitely don’t like Deblasio, I think he’s a walking shell and lack leadership skills. He’s so bland and uncharismatic, still can’t believe this was the best candidate nyc could produce.

Nyc will get better, we have seen more years of progressive and change even under Deblasio. More good neighborhoods, development etc. Deblasio is pretty much useless and won’t lesve much of anything behind. The next mayor will most likely be republican anyway, it runs in cycles here.
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