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Old 07-13-2018, 08:08 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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what if the billionaires pooled a hundredth a percent of their wealth to make programs to mainstream the homeless going into this shelter? then they can have less of a mess and feel like they're doing a good deed all at the same time! probably a decent tax write-off to boot!

there can be photo-ops (after they are cleaned up) and testimonials to boot!
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Old 07-14-2018, 04:29 AM
 
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Beverly Hills should house a homeless shelter.

Everyone pays taxes that go to benefit people on welfare, so having services for homeless people should not be burdens for working class people or for people of color.
Everyone doesn’t pay taxes

The majority of people pay very little especially those that make less than six figures which includes the majority of this country. The 1% and corporations by far hold the brunt of taxation, that’s just simple economics.

If Beverley Hills had a homeless shelter, BV wouldn’t exist. Property values will sink and all those high paying people will leave. The same for billionaires row, when that happens the city loses money from real estate sales to high income earners potentially leaving out the city.

You pay the premium and expect a certain quality of life. You take that away the premium doesn’t exist. The city has more leechers than millionaires, so Deblasio should be careful
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Old 07-14-2018, 05:38 AM
 
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Everyone doesn’t pay taxes

The majority of people pay very little especially those that make less than six figures which includes the majority of this country. The 1% and corporations by far hold the brunt of taxation, that’s just simple economics.

If Beverley Hills had a homeless shelter, BV wouldn’t exist. Property values will sink and all those high paying people will leave. The same for billionaires row, when that happens the city loses money from real estate sales to high income earners potentially leaving out the city.

You pay the premium and expect a certain quality of life. You take that away the premium doesn’t exist. The city has more leechers than millionaires, so Deblasio should be careful
Beverly Hills not existing would be a wonderful thing. I’m not a fan of extreme income equality. I see no benefit to myself if the existence of Beverly Hills and there is certainly no need to defend them.
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Old 07-14-2018, 06:05 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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The city has more leechers than millionaires


Do you really think those multi-millionaires aren't BIGGER leaches on society than the poor whose only leeching is to get a roof over their heads?
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Old 07-14-2018, 07:03 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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Everyone doesn’t pay taxes

The majority of people pay very little especially those that make less than six figures which includes the majority of this country. The 1% and corporations by far hold the brunt of taxation, that’s just simple economics.

If Beverley Hills had a homeless shelter, BV wouldn’t exist. Property values will sink and all those high paying people will leave. The same for billionaires row, when that happens the city loses money from real estate sales to high income earners potentially leaving out the city.

You pay the premium and expect a certain quality of life. You take that away the premium doesn’t exist. The city has more leechers than millionaires, so Deblasio should be careful
*Not everyone pays taxes
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Old 07-14-2018, 08:24 AM
 
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The city has more leechers than millionaires


Do you really think those multi-millionaires aren't BIGGER leaches on society than the poor whose only leeching is to get a roof over their heads?
They are leechers off the system that makes America what it is, capitalism. Now if you are suggesting the destruction of capitalism. You are then relying on an even worse entity of government in controlling economic stimulation. The government can’t even run NYCHA and their various other programs that are frankly outdated and incompetent.
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Old 07-14-2018, 08:26 AM
 
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Beverly Hills not existing would be a wonderful thing. I’m not a fan of extreme income equality. I see no benefit to myself if the existence of Beverly Hills and there is certainly no need to defend them.
There will always be a lower class. This is how the machine works, give me an example of a country without income equality. How did that turn out for them?

We are able to take care of the less fortunate, people don’t starve in this country. Why do you think people risk their lives coming here.

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Old 07-14-2018, 08:28 AM
 
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The city has more leechers than millionaires


Do you really think those multi-millionaires aren't BIGGER leaches on society than the poor whose only leeching is to get a roof over their heads?
People say this, but can you articulate on genuinely economic terms why that is so?
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Old 07-14-2018, 11:34 AM
 
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There will always be a lower class. This is how the machine works, give me an example of a country without income equality. How did that turn out for them?

We are able to take care of the less fortunate, people don’t starve in this country. Why do you think people risk their lives coming here.
So then there's no problem with Beverly Hills hosting a shelter if there is will always be a lower class.

And while it's true there are always going to be inequalities, things can be done to blunt that. Example, social security ensures all old people who worked and paid taxes for at least ten years will at least get social security for income and medicare in old age.
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Old 07-14-2018, 12:11 PM
 
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Because if money is going to be put toward housing the homeless, it should be done as efficiently as possible. It's going to cost a lot more to host the homeless on 57th street in Manhattan, than is some some lower cost part of the outer boroughs. Therefore for the same money you could put up more of them.

This presupposes that the city putting up money to house the homeless is a proper use of tax money. There's a strong argument that this is incorrect. People need to deal with their own problems, not expect the taxpayers to.

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Misery should be spread around- why should poorer neighborhoods be forced to have multiple shelters in their communities so that 'richer' neighborhoods can be spared?
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