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Old 07-14-2018, 07:14 PM
 
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They're seasonal? That's news to me.

Doesn't your building spray regularly? It's crazy to try and zap individual bugs. And many pesticides don't even kill bugs directly.


Yeah, those huge mouse sized roaches (water bugs) like very warm and moist conditions. Thus they are normally in sewers, basements and otherwise underground in NYC during cooler times of year.


However once temperatures begin to rise, just like in parts of the south (Florida), the critters can survive above ground and make their way up.....


Many basements (especially apartment buildings) have huge boilers that are running 24/7 for heat (steam or hot water), and or at least hot water. That keeps things warm to rather toasty down there, in fact is reason why during very hot weather you see doors or those sidewalk metal version that lead to boiler rooms/basements opened. Between the heat given off by the boilers, and that from weather it must be like a blast furnace down there.


Under Manhattan streets you have steam pipes and other things that generate heat. If you notice even during really cold weather and or when it snows there are certain areas of streets or sidewalks where things melt.


There are also all those ventilation grates from buildings and subways/trains that exhaust hot air, which is the reason why homeless and others sleep or whatever on them in cold weather.


Long story short underground many areas of NYC provide conditions for those huge roaches to thrive, so that is where they remain most of the year.


https://www.orkin.com/cockroaches/di...-palmetto-bug/


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_woods_cockroach


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americ...haracteristics
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Old 07-14-2018, 07:27 PM
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Boric acid is has been pretty effective "poison" against small insects like roaches.

Yeah. I have that around and it does wonders for roaches. Don't know about water bugs which are roaches on steroids. Roaches are easy to kill. Just one zap with the roach spray and they're done. Not so much water bugs.
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Old 07-14-2018, 07:32 PM
 
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Yeah. I have that around and it does wonders for roaches. Don't know about water bugs which are roaches on steroids. Roaches are easy to kill. Just one zap with the roach spray and they're done. Not so much water bugs.


Boric acid will work on those mouse sized roaches according to our exterminator guy. Building exterminator puts down those cardboard square sticky trap "houses" commonly used to catch mice. These are put under the convector radiators in lobby and common areas. One assumes because of the pipes that come up from basements allow the buggers access as well.
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Old 07-14-2018, 07:47 PM
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Boric acid will work on those mouse sized roaches according to our exterminator guy. Building exterminator puts down those cardboard square sticky trap "houses" commonly used to catch mice. These are put under the convector radiators in lobby and common areas. One assumes because of the pipes that come up from basements allow the buggers access as well.
Ahhhh...well let's see. It's been years (more than 15 years ago, I think) since I had a water bug in my apt. But that one time scarred me for life. I hate bugs. I like snakes. But I hate bugs.

At my mom's place (where she goes crazy with the boric acid and plugging up holes), she hasn't had a water bug or mouse ever & we're talking close to 30 years. But she gets the occasional centipede and ants. Blah.
You can only do so much. Insects are resilient. I think they know how to evolve and adapt to whatever.

As long as neither she nor I get bed bugs, I'll call myself lucky. My mom's bldg recently had an infestation of them. Mgmt made it mandatory for all the units to be inspected to see which units had them. The exterminators (along with the bed bug dog - don't know if it was Rosco) came and thankfully my mom's place was declared clean but other units were not so lucky. Such is apt. living!

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Old 07-16-2018, 10:49 AM
 
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Dude no need to be sexist. Could've said stop screaming like children.
That is ageist. Many children are mature enough to handle the sight of an insect. You could've said stop screaming like persons.
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Old 07-16-2018, 03:17 PM
 
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Poison baits is the way to go.
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Old 07-16-2018, 04:25 PM
 
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Poison baits is the way to go.


Depends, and answer could be not so much any longer.


As with every other manmade insecticide (including DDT) bugs develop immunity and or learned avoidance behaviors. As such many factors now come into play. How old is that bait? What is the formula? And so it goes....


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roach_bait


https://gizmodo.com/spiders-poison-a...rst-1827297042


Professionals use baits along with other substances such as growth inhibitors to deal with roach issues.
https://www.peststrategies.com/revie...st-roach-bait/
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Old 07-16-2018, 05:08 PM
 
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The ones here don't discriminate. Houses, buildings---whatever.
Maybe so, but I've never had one before in any apartment I've lived in. Spent 30+ years living at my mother's house in the Bronx, never seen one there, neither has anyone else in my family. (Detached private house in the Bronx). In a few mid to high rise buildings, I only saw them in the basement (laundry room). A few other private houses in the Bronx, and a walk up building on the LES, never saw them. I'm 3 floors above street level in my current place, and don't know how the F**kers get up that high lol - although clearly it's the steps!
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Old 07-17-2018, 06:43 AM
 
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I'm 3 floors above street level in my current place, and don't know how the F**kers get up that high lol - although clearly it's the steps!


More likely they climb up around the pipes. Pipes are the interstate highway system for roaches.


Here's my technique: I save the bottlecaps from half and half containers (lots) and used Combat Max Roach killing gel (active ingredient, Fipronyl) and squirted a teeny blob in a dozen of the bottle-caps. Our exterminator comes twice a month and sprays every apartment that wants it. We tried him once, 6 years ago and he sprayed the joint with something he said was "odorless." It was, for about an hour, the smell started: like a poison gas chamber for days and days...horrible, I'd rather have roaches.
He came again a couple weeks later and I said NO MORE SPRAY, EVER. He then applied paste here and there, at least no smell.
Months go by and roaches return, perhaps two or three sightings a week...German roaches, stamdard issue. So then out of the blue, he appears again (always Saturday morning) and I said "Squirt some paste into these bottle caps" He did. I asked what it was and researched the active ingredient but I have forgotten. Active ingredien is not fipronyl. I think it began with a "V." Sorry.


So I had about two dozen caps in bathroom and kitchen and some lines along the baseboard of the kitchen and outside the bathroom.
I worried about the stuff drying out, so every few weeks I use a 1 ounce spray bottle filled with water to spray into each cap to remoisten the bait.


Exterminator was here recently and I got several more caps filled (so maybe 3 dozen in play. The first, the COMBAT I bought is about 4 years old. I SHOULD give a push with a finger to see if it is still pliable but I am loathe to touch poisons. I have seen some old crusts of roach remains in a bottom cabinet...but that cabinet has 2 bait caps. I should vacuum up the oach remains but that would mean pulling out a gajillion pots and pans and a sore back. I will venture to guess that there is not a single living roach in my apartment. I have not seen one in over 2 years and my peripheral vision is excellent if something moves.
I began to think maybe the whole building is roach free, but no, I saw one in the basement yesterday.


Many sing the praises of Amazon's Advion bait whose poison is Indoxicarb. If any roaches returned I would order this.


If I find out AGAIN the bait the exterminator uses I will post it but you will not go far wrong by starting with a tube of COMBAT MAX gel from Home Depot or ordering Advion bait online. I think refreshing the paste with a light water spray periodically is a good idea (les than a ml of water per cap. (Perhaps you will even be braver than I and give it a finger test for dryness. Hey, why don't I use a glove...YEAH.


I am presuming that the water bugs (American cockroach) will respond the same as the more common German roaches. In fact they probably eat even more.


The sprays are just for exterminator's job security. They just irritate the roaches and cause them to run to other apartments. They don't call the active ingredients "dispersants" for nothing.


Good Luck in your fight. Let's all be grateful that the battle isn't against bedbugs.

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Old 07-24-2018, 10:53 AM
 
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ME: So then out of the blue, he appears again (always Saturday morning) and I said "Squirt some paste into these bottle caps" He did. I asked what it was and researched the active ingredient but I have forgotten. Active ingredien is not fipronyl. I think it began with a "V." Sorry.



I haven't forgotten. I caught him Saturday morning and asked him: the paste bait is called VENDETTA and VENDETTA PLUS.


I should have asked for more but I was on my way out.
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