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Old 07-18-2018, 05:46 PM
 
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Something tells me this guy isn't all there.

Not to sound harsh but at some point the city needs to acknowledge some bums are below mental capacity to ever lead an independent normal life.
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At what point do we start holding Judges accountable for letting these type of people out on the streets over and over again?
People always blame police but never judges...
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Old 07-20-2018, 11:54 AM
 
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Sometimes I wonder...
Where the line blurs between human rights and the impediment of one's human rights and the safety and the right's of others (society). There are so many people mental health problems (not sure that's the okay term to use) that they're aware of and those around them are aware of but there's so many more people who's mental health goes undetected until something happens. On one hand you can "lock" up (hospital) someone if they are deemed to be a danger to themselves and to others but you may be infringing on their rights. But we also know there are also people who can hide their illnesses from others, and very well at that. Million dollar question: How can we help those who may not want the help but society sees that they do need it without infringing on a person's rights? If all that makes sense..
Trivialize it as much as you want but everybody down in the subway understands that punching 3 random people in the face is a crime.
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Old 07-20-2018, 11:58 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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Trivialize it as much as you want but everybody down in the subway understands that punching 3 random people in the face is a crime.
How is that trivializing? He's trying to describe the problem set, but you're trivializing it into a sound bite.
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Old 07-20-2018, 12:04 PM
 
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How is that trivializing? He's trying to describe the problem set, but you're trivializing it into a sound bite.
I am in that subway stop at Columbus Circle every day. There are often armed security with rifles guarding the place. In my opinion it does not matter if a person has mental health issues. When they perform a triple attack like that, they are not fit to be in the subway or anywhere in the city. They are a danger regardless of their status.
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Old 07-20-2018, 12:30 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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I am in that subway stop at Columbus Circle every day. There are often armed security with rifles guarding the place. In my opinion it does not matter if a person has mental health issues. When they perform a triple attack like that, they are not fit to be in the subway or anywhere in the city. They are a danger regardless of their status.
There was nothing about the post you were quoting that said they were not a danger or that there doesn't need to be a solution to it. I don't get how you read that and thought it was trivializing the problem.

The system needs a legal way to be able to have these people separated out from the general population. Hospitals and the criminal court system as is are arguably not effective enough, so what are the laws we need to legally set people with these issues outside of the general populace. It's certainly likely this person is going to be locked away for a while now that it's crossed into a felony rather than a misdemeanor, but waiting for that moment as the system effectively does now is not a great solution.
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Old 07-20-2018, 03:13 PM
 
Location: NY
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65 priors? and never shot and killed by the police.
Now that's what I call admirable restraint on the part of the arresting officers.
I'm sure some left wing nut will spin in as " shows how much the cops aren't doing their jobs."

No...............This is what happens when the city..... doesn't..... do..... its ..... job.
After 1 or 2 arrest its bye bye to any one of the 43 correctional facilities in this state.
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