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Old 07-23-2018, 06:08 PM
 
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I think they did a good job with Spring Creek though!
Well Spring Creek is really outskirty so I think they look less out of place there. But in the South/Central Bronx and Bushwick, I find them to be an eyesore. Of course my personal architectural preferences don't matter in the grand scheme of things, but I do think they're a waste of land in a city with a housing crisis, considering they replaced midrise buildings that housed way more people. I wonder if The Bronx would be more affordable if either the original buildings in the South/Central Bronx survived/and or were replaced by midrise buildings.
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Old 07-23-2018, 06:10 PM
 
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Are these the Spring Creek ones?

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6561...7i13312!8i6656

I'm not a fan, but it's more in place here than in Longwood or Mott Haven.
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Old 07-23-2018, 07:16 PM
 
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That has to do with NYC zoning laws. You can either do a short building using all of the land, or a tall thin one leaving some of the land unbuildable.



This is done because an average family has 8 kids per apartment and so you can have a storage area for the hay for your horse over winter.
Iíll take the shorter large development over random thin building
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Old 07-23-2018, 07:17 PM
 
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Don't be too embarassed, a lot of Bronxites (as you know) don't even use their own neighborhood names. Or they use the wrong neighborhood names. I've heard native Bronxites refer to Valentine Ave as "Kingsbridge", presumably because Kingsbridge Road is nearby. People in Wakefield and Williamsbridge often say their neighborhood is "Gun Hill".
Wakefield and Williamsbridge is also referred to as Uptown in the Bronx
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Old 07-23-2018, 07:18 PM
 
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I'm not familiar with Spring Creek. I remember when they infilled with these townhouses in East Harlem, probably in the mid to late 90s. I think these were affordable lottery housing (for ownership). It was an enormous improvement and really look pretty good.

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8010...7i16384!8i8192
Yea the Harlem ones donít look to bad also
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Old 07-23-2018, 07:21 PM
 
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Are these the Spring Creek ones?

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6561...7i13312!8i6656

I'm not a fan, but it's more in place here than in Longwood or Mott Haven.
No those arenít the Spring Creek ones and I donít actually think those are part of the programs.

The Spring Creek versions are the houses that are literally located behind the mall (Gateway Mall).

Go on google maps and type in 553 Vandalia Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11239
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Old 07-23-2018, 07:23 PM
 
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I guess an area that resembles Spring Creek in another borough is maybe the deep ends of Classon Point except Classon Point has no mall!
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Old 07-23-2018, 07:34 PM
 
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Here they're often built after tearing down a historic house on a larger than average lot, so the developer can build several where there was previously only one dwelling.
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Maybe, but then again maybe not.


In some parts of the Bronx and elsewhere those row houses went up on lots that once held multifamily apartment buildings. Much of that "empty" land was result of the bad days of South Bronx and elsewhere when things were torched to get at insurance money.


Rezoning and or otherwise redeveloping those areas into single family homes reduced the supply of housing. This is especially true of "affordable" or whatever apartments that South Bronx and other areas now are in desperate need.
There was a good 20 year gap between when the old buildings got burned down and when the Fedders replaced them. Wherever I see Fedders in Bushwick, I get the idea that it was a vacant lot of rubble between the late '70s and mid '90s. Then the Fedders rejuvenated the block. Brought some life back. Thank you Fedder. You were the first to take the risk of developing a forgotten neighborhood.
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Old 07-23-2018, 08:09 PM
 
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Wakefield and Williamsbridge is also referred to as Uptown in the Bronx
Yeah I know. I think that would include Baychester too
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Old 07-23-2018, 08:12 PM
 
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No those arenít the Spring Creek ones and I donít actually think those are part of the programs.

The Spring Creek versions are the houses that are literally located behind the mall (Gateway Mall).

Go on google maps and type in 553 Vandalia Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11239
Those are okay. A step up from the ones in Brownsville and the South Bronx



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There was a good 20 year gap between when the old buildings got burned down and when the Fedders replaced them. Wherever I see Fedders in Bushwick, I get the idea that it was a vacant lot of rubble between the late '70s and mid '90s. Then the Fedders rejuvenated the block. Brought some life back. Thank you Fedder. You were the first to take the risk of developing a forgotten neighborhood.
The ones in The Bronx went up as early as the mid 80s
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