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Old 07-24-2018, 03:50 AM
 
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Remember Lexington Avenue and onto points east (Yorkville), served as the "service" area for the rich heartland of UES (east of Lexington).


Supermarkets, grocery stores, shoe repair, laundries, dry cleaners, tailors, restaurants, bars, etc... Are all largely found on Lexington Avenue, or between Third and Lexington, then going onto further east.


There isn't a supermarket, grocery store, shop or whatever on Fifth. Nothing on Park either below 86th street. Madison Avenue was and still is a "shopping" corridor from Mid-town right up into the UES, to there things are a bit different. You still don't have a supermarket until above 86th street.


When the rich or whatever of UES wanted to get their drink on, eat, or whatever locally it is and or was eastward they went.


Dorian's is still around serving generations of WASP young adults and others (remember the Preppie Murder Trial?).


Elio's on Second has been an "A-list" spot for generations. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/02/d...ies-at-83.html


J.G. Mellon is still around serving burgers, fries and beer to preppies and WASPs, but other places like Jackie O's favorite Le Refuge are long gone.
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Old 07-24-2018, 06:35 AM
 
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Okay, let me clarify:

Yorkville - one of the last few middle class ungentrified neighborhoods in Manhattan
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Old 07-24-2018, 07:12 AM
 
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Okay, let me clarify:

Yorkville - one of the last few middle class ungentrified neighborhoods in Manhattan
That's more accurate... Give it 10 years or so before Yorkville really heats up. You have a lot of people in stabilized apartments that won't leave until they are carried out in a body bag, but developers are looking and buying what they can. Now that SAS is there you're already seeing new gleaming buildings on 2nd and there's that big building on 86th and Lex rapidly going up.
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Old 07-24-2018, 07:50 AM
 
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Co-op Village is another. Maybe Hudson Heights and Inwood.
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Old 07-24-2018, 08:07 AM
 
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That's more accurate... Give it 10 years or so before Yorkville really heats up. You have a lot of people in stabilized apartments that won't leave until they are carried out in a body bag, but developers are looking and buying what they can. Now that SAS is there you're already seeing new gleaming buildings on 2nd and there's that big building on 86th and Lex rapidly going up.


Ten years my behind. Yorkville has already heated up.


Extell emptied out that block between 80th and 79th, and that wraps around both corners towards St. Monica's church.


Half the block from JG Mellon's has been emptied out and being developed.


Half to three-quarters of Third between 83rd and 84th is being emptied out for development.


There's a new building going up on 83rd and Third.


Rumor has it that west side of Third between 80th and 81st is slowly being emptied out for redevelopment.


Entire block from 77th to 76th on Third is being redeveloped.


Half of Lexington between 78th and 77th is being redeveloped


In any event Yorkville has already changed and is getting "hot".


Once home to many thrift shops, they are nearly all gone. As are many of the small "quirky" shops that gave the place character.
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Old 07-24-2018, 08:54 AM
 
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Yorkville looks gentrified to me. If you think Bed Stuy is gentrified then what does that make Yorkville?
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Old 07-24-2018, 09:29 AM
 
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Ten years my behind. Yorkville has already heated up.


Extell emptied out that block between 80th and 79th, and that wraps around both corners towards St. Monica's church.


Half the block from JG Mellon's has been emptied out and being developed.


Half to three-quarters of Third between 83rd and 84th is being emptied out for development.


There's a new building going up on 83rd and Third.


Rumor has it that west side of Third between 80th and 81st is slowly being emptied out for redevelopment.


Entire block from 77th to 76th on Third is being redeveloped.


Half of Lexington between 78th and 77th is being redeveloped


In any event Yorkville has already changed and is getting "hot".


Once home to many thrift shops, they are nearly all gone. As are many of the small "quirky" shops that gave the place character.
10 years to get rid of some of those rent stabilized types. More of them are starting to die off. That's what I'm thinking about. I'm in the area regularly by York and 79th and that part of Yorkville is already expensive. I frequent one of the doorman buildings over there. I've been in that area so long that I remember when Agata & Valentina had a "restaurant" or whatever it was supposed to be across the street when it was really popular. There was also a nice Italian-American place called "Libertà" (Trattoria Libertà to be exact) on 2nd in the 80s. Owner was Siciliano like me. Good times. I'd walked from there buzzed out of my mind and jump on the M79 bus!

79th is really the crème de la crème anyway. Always has been, so the development in the 70s is no real surprise. Even in parts of Yorkville, in the 70s to me it's just like the rest of the tony looking European architecture (townhouses, etc.) you'd find off of Madison or 5th by Central Park.
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Old 07-24-2018, 11:33 AM
 
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My VERY first apartment was a studio at 73rd and 3rd. Sigh.
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Old 07-24-2018, 11:41 AM
 
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My VERY first apartment was a studio at 73rd and 3rd. Sigh.
Speaking of which, there are several studios in the $1600 - 1700 range. One even looks gut renovated. I pay $1600 for my place outside of Manhattan and $1600 for the UES is a good deal:

https://www.trulia.com/p/ny/new-york...65--2356069451

https://www.trulia.com/p/ny/new-york...75--2174115534


This one is a share with a roommate but it has a balcony like my studio:

https://www.trulia.com/rental/403798...-York-NY-10028

73rd and 3rd is a great location. 3rd Avenue in the 60s on up to the 70s is relatively clean. It's in the 80s that it becomes rather dirty.
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Old 07-24-2018, 11:50 AM
 
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Speaking of which, there are several studios in the $1600 - 1700 range. One even looks gut renovated. I pay $1600 for my place outside of Manhattan and $1600 for the UES is a good deal:

https://www.trulia.com/p/ny/new-york...65--2356069451

https://www.trulia.com/p/ny/new-york...75--2174115534


This one is a share with a roommate but it has a balcony like my studio:

https://www.trulia.com/rental/403798...-York-NY-10028

73rd and 3rd is a great location. 3rd Avenue in the 60s on up to the 70s is relatively clean. It's in the 80s that it becomes rather dirty.
Really about the 80s? I was up there a couple of years ago, looked normal to me. But I grew up near there, so maybe my perspective is different .
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