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Old 08-30-2018, 04:35 AM
 
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Rockaway had dollar vans since the 1980s. Two routes. One goes to Parsons and Archer, roughly following the path of the 113, and the one route goes down the beach to Beach 90th, sometimes to Beach 116th, similar to the Q22.
I stand corrected.
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Old 08-31-2018, 11:06 AM
 
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I always assumed these dollar vans are for Hudson County to Manhattan.
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Old 08-31-2018, 03:28 PM
 
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I always assumed these dollar vans are for Hudson County to Manhattan.


Nope, as previously stated dollar vans have been around for about three decades now.


Brooklyn, Bronx, Queens, etc.... any area poorly served by taxis, buses or subways. Even bus routes would see action as people would pay for rides to subway stations or whatever.


There were debates/arguments going back also decades to allow livery/for hire cars to "hail" fares which was supposed to (in theory) cut down on dollar vans. IIRC under Bloomberg some of that did happen, but would have to research further.


For those who can afford/have the technology Uber and other share services have largely replaced dollar vans.
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Old 08-31-2018, 11:08 PM
 
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They are all over Flatbush Avenue in Brooklyn. Honestly, people use them because they are cheaper than the bus, and they are much quicker than the bus as they are smaller and can maneuver more easily than buses can. I've been in one less than a handful of times. Probably wouldn't do it again, though, unless I was in a hurry to get someplace and the bus just wouldn't cut it.
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Old 09-01-2018, 10:13 PM
 
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They are all over Flatbush Avenue in Brooklyn. Honestly, people use them because they are cheaper than the bus, and they are much quicker than the bus as they are smaller and can maneuver more easily than buses can. I've been in one less than a handful of times. Probably wouldn't do it again, though, unless I was in a hurry to get someplace and the bus just wouldn't cut it.
Curious. If they're cheaper and quicker than the bus, why wouldn't you want to ride the vans again? What's the drawback?
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Old 09-02-2018, 12:57 AM
 
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Curious. If they're cheaper and quicker than the bus, why wouldn't you want to ride the vans again? What's the drawback?
You're kidding right?


These are unlicensed vehicles with drivers of questionable skills and or even themselves with no license. You don't know who these drivers are, and worse since they don't carry proper (taxi/livery/for hire) insurance. If something happens to you while in such a vehicle you're on your own, as it will be near impossible to collect anything.


Even if drivers have required NYS automobile insurance including liability carriers will refuse to pay any claims if the guy was operating a for hire vehicle, as that requires different insurance.


None of this touches the fact you don't know who you're getting into those vans with or are being driven by. You think Uber/share drivers invented rape and or abuse of passengers?


Remember news stories back it the 1980's and 1990's about NYPD stops on these drivers finding a bizarre and vast array of egits behind the wheel. Ex-cons (some with very nasty and or long rap sheets), unlicensed drivers, those who had repeated/long list of license suspensions, illegal aliens, etc....
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Old 09-02-2018, 02:52 AM
 
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Curious. If they're cheaper and quicker than the bus, why wouldn't you want to ride the vans again? What's the drawback?
They take only cash, which can be a good thing or bad thing (I like the convenience of a Metrocard, etc.). But I also don't trust them as most aren't even licensed. They are just a bit too shady for me to be using regularly.
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Old 09-02-2018, 05:54 AM
 
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Curious. If they're cheaper and quicker than the bus, why wouldn't you want to ride the vans again? What's the drawback?
I took dollar vans to see my voice teacher who was in a double fare zone at the time. I did it because the wait for the bus to get was sometimes ridiculously long. I was 16 years old. One dollar van took me as a passenger, and then pulled over, without my permission and started playing with his monkey in front of me. That's why people would be deterred.
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Old 09-02-2018, 07:23 AM
 
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Curious. If they're cheaper and quicker than the bus, why wouldn't you want to ride the vans again? What's the drawback?

The sweat smell, the crowding, the often changing routes. I've done them twice and got the feeling I was in Dogpatch.
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Old 09-02-2018, 08:55 AM
 
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They take only cash, which can be a good thing or bad thing (I like the convenience of a Metrocard, etc.). But I also don't trust them as most aren't even licensed. They are just a bit too shady for me to be using regularly.
Oh, ok. Like the Chinatown buses, I guess. Never rode those but heard nightmare stories about them.
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