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Old 09-07-2018, 11:24 AM
 
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Her father is a Colombian immigrant. She most certainly can say she is an immigrant. She's a first generation American.

What? This is a first for me---I've never heard someone born in America claiming to be an immigrant just because his or her parents were born in another country.

This forum is a special place.

 
Old 09-07-2018, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Bronx
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yes, I read that as well. Most Latin names ending with "ez" have Jewish origins: Sanchez, Hernandez, Velasquez, etc.

Back in the day, Spain was half Muslim and half Jewish. The Christians fled to the north, and eventually conquered/ or regained Iberia again.
Spain was not half Jewish or half Muslim. Spain was always majority christian. However Spain had been conquered by the Arabs in 711 whichel ended germanic rule. The rulers of the germanic tribe known as the goths fled to the mountains in the north. Those that remained, the remaining Latin Greek Celtics and German people's lives under Arab rule and kept their Christian faith. Christians jews and Muslims lived together in Muslim portions of Spain, and lived peacefully under the umayyad, and fellow taifa rulers. In Muslim Spain. Jews made up a larger portion of the merchant class, while Muslim made up the portion of the ruling class and ruling elite. Christians in Muslim Spain did not make up the merchant or ruling class.
 
Old 09-07-2018, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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First generation American =/= immigrant.
I can attest to this. Pro blacks and white racist want me to me deported even though I was born here.
 
Old 09-07-2018, 01:56 PM
 
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I'm surprised nyt published this hit piece especially since the times has been historically pro Jewish and pro left for nearly a century. I find this article to be odd.
The Times is left leaning but overall does solid balanced reporting. Where do you get your news?

Don’t understand your pro Jewish comment anyway and why, if true, it would surprise you that the Times is reporting on this story. One issue with Julia Salazar is how she appears to have made inaccurate statements about her Jewish background for political purposes.
 
Old 09-07-2018, 01:59 PM
 
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Regarding Salazar’s previous claims that she was an immigrant, from the NYT article:

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She attempted to clarify her background, while continuing to embrace the idea of herself as a child of immigration, saying she had spent a lot of emotionally significant time in Bogotá as a child.

“I’m not an immigrant myself,” she said. “Rather, I have always felt a deep connection to my father’s immigrant experience because of the time I spent with our family in Colombia at such a young age.”
 
Old 09-07-2018, 02:15 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Brother of Julia Salazar says they grew up with a maid and went to private school | Daily Mail Online
 
Old 09-07-2018, 02:20 PM
 
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Not surprising
 
Old 09-07-2018, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Pelham Parkway,The Bronx
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Sounds like this one is another pathologigical liar like Trump.
 
Old 09-07-2018, 02:55 PM
 
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She is Jewish. She converted, and anyone is entitled to convert. She's of Sephardic descent, and legally Jewish in both Portugal and Spain.

There's a huge movement of Colombians like her who are of Jewish descent who were not RAISED Jewish, but who identify as Jewish due to Sephardic descent. This is also big in the Southwestern United States, Mexico, Brazil, Argentina, Peru, Ecuador, etc.

Some of these people have even immigrated to Israel itself, as the Orthodox rabbinate considers them Jewish due to Sephardic descent. Though they must undergo Orthodox conversions.

She did not lie, as her mother identified the family as of SEPHARDIC descent though there were not practicing Jews.

Now I'm giving no opinion on whether people should vote for her. She isn't in my district and I voted absentee ballot.

But someone with an immigrant father has every right to say that they are immigrants themselves (racists certainly consider them foreigners) and yes anyone of Sephardic descent has every right to identify as Jewish if so they chose and convert if so they chose.

The vast majority of people in Colombia have some degree of Jewish ancestry, and this is the problem that kills a lot of Ashkenazi as yourself. In sheer numbers Latin Americans of Sephardic descent (most Latin Americans) outnumber the handful of Ashkenazi.
Why would it bother me that there are many Sephardic Jews, in Columbia or elsewhere?
My husband, in fact, is Sephardic.

By the way, many Columbian Jews are Ashkenazi . I know some Ashkenazi Columbian Jews.
 
Old 09-07-2018, 03:04 PM
 
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My parents were born in another country, I was born here.

They were immigrants to this country. Since I was born here, I am not an immigrant but a citizen of this country.

I have visited their country of origin but my visiting that country does not make me an immigrant from said country.
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