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Old 10-25-2018, 03:26 PM
 
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Not one penny more am I giving to these egits until they sort themselves out.


Arriving Soon: Higher Subway Fares For Worse Service: Gothamist
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Old 10-25-2018, 03:29 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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I want a first class train car. Pay $5. No kids. No bums. Gotta show your pass at the door. Maybe a nice bar?

I’m kidding, but I’d go in.
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Old 10-25-2018, 03:36 PM
 
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I want a first class train car. Pay $5. No kids. No bums. Gotta show your pass at the door. Maybe a nice bar?

I’m kidding, but I’d go in.
Would never work; the "equality" and "inclusion" brigade would bust that idea before it even got out of the gate.
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Old 10-25-2018, 04:12 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Jack the fare up by three times, then have a nfc transit card for nyc residents that’s at 3 dollar a ride or similarly upped weeklies/monthlies. This is essentially what London does. High sticker price that mostly affects non-residents and a much more reasonable effective price for residents. At that rate, it also makes sense to make daily and 3 day passes with dailies at 18 and three days at 40 all geared towards visitors.
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Old 10-25-2018, 04:41 PM
 
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Jack the fare up by three times, then have a nfc transit card for nyc residents that’s at 3 dollar a ride or similarly upped weeklies/monthlies. This is essentially what London does. High sticker price that mostly affects non-residents and a much more reasonable effective price for residents. At that rate, it also makes sense to make daily and 3 day passes with dailies at 18 and three days at 40 all geared towards visitors.
So what happens when or if tourism takes a hit? One really bad winter, unfavorable currency exchange and other issues.


Besides MTA doesn't have much wiggle room financially, and am not sure pushing non-residents to pay more while giving away the shop to residents is going to solve the massive financial issues facing that agency.


Subway and bus ridership is down and continues to decline month to month. Am not sure giving NYC residents (who are already avoiding NYC transit) *more* access at reduced prices is going to change things much.


Quite simply between ride shares, Citibike, changes in living and other demographics people are finding less and less use for city buses and subways. None of this even touches fact that increasingly you cannot get from A to B quickly or efficiently. I for one don't give a rat's behind how many free daily passes or whatever is given if have to jump through many hoops just to get from West 81st to West 23rd without transferring twice or more.
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Old 10-25-2018, 05:03 PM
 
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So what happens when or if tourism takes a hit? One really bad winter, unfavorable currency exchange and other issues.


Besides MTA doesn't have much wiggle room financially, and am not sure pushing non-residents to pay more while giving away the shop to residents is going to solve the massive financial issues facing that agency.


Subway and bus ridership is down and continues to decline month to month. Am not sure giving NYC residents (who are already avoiding NYC transit) *more* access at reduced prices is going to change things much.


Quite simply between ride shares, Citibike, changes in living and other demographics people are finding less and less use for city buses and subways. None of this even touches fact that increasingly you cannot get from A to B quickly or efficiently. I for one don't give a rat's behind how many free daily passes or whatever is given if have to jump through many hoops just to get from West 81st to West 23rd without transferring twice or more.
Then revenues take a hit. It’s not a silver bullet nor is any other plan, but tourists are generally in to spend money and they are now a large segment of who is in the city. I don’t proffer this as what should be the only plan—I’m also in favor of congestion pricing, a lock for transit funds, reforming MTA, making its bidding process more open and transparent, developing areas near stations in order to value capture the premium transit access gives and NY politicans being competent enough to argue on the federal and state level that the city is a golden goose and has contributed far more in tax receipt than it has in tax expenditure for decades if not centuries and it needs those funds.
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Old 10-25-2018, 06:07 PM
 
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NYC's municipal budget is approaching 100 billion a year. I'm sure within all that cheese the city can pony up for paying for the MTA.
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Old 10-25-2018, 06:16 PM
 
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Fill in the hole with sand.....................
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Old 10-25-2018, 06:49 PM
 
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NYC's municipal budget is approaching 100 billion a year. I'm sure within all that cheese the city can pony up for paying for the MTA.
Cuomo and Albany shares 50% of the blame. Don't forget.
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Old 10-25-2018, 06:52 PM
 
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NYC's municipal budget is approaching 100 billion a year. I'm sure within all that cheese the city can pony up for paying for the MTA.

That's because Bill de Boob and city council have been spending money like sailors on shore leave.


For now thanks to increased revenue inflows (mostly tied to property taxes/RE transactions) city is raking in so much money it doesn't know what to do with it all. Well they do really; instead of giving money back to where it came from (those who earned and were taxed) BdeB and his instruments have been busy living democrat/progressive/liberal wet dreams, *redistributing* all that money by funneling it into gifts to their base; the poor, illegals, immigrants, and anyone else who can't afford to live in this city without subsidies.
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