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Easy way out. And thats only putting a Band-Aid on the bullethole.
Supposed you owned a house and couldnt keep up with the maintenance, who u gonna get to subsidize you?
Meh
It’s not the easy way out. The city makes a lot of money in property taxes and from income taxes in landlords. NYCHA is a huge whole in their budget. It’s obvious why are pursuing privatization. The private units will get Section 8, so the city is smartly getting NYCHA off their books. Now deal with the job market and various inequalities, and you get more people working sustainable jobs.
Don’t smoke, drink, or do drugs? If you live in NYCHA was still more than willing to let your ceiling cave in on you, your apartment be full of lead and poison your family. The same city for many years would not out in security cameras.
Conducting yourself well does not mean a damn in the horrible atmosphere the city set up. Gun violence problem near you?
Good behavior does not mean you cannot get shot.
So with miserable circumstances and no hope of advance, people behave poorly. There’s no incentive to behave better.
Simply condemning some people as bad will do nothing. It’s gojng to take major changes to housing, to education, with welfare and the government, and with the job market itself to change things.
Example had the city cared to put in sufficient security cameras and hire sufficient security you’ve solved the problems of urinating and defecating in the hallways. Violators could be made to see psychiatrists, and if they fail to be able to stop this they can be expelled from public housing.
Gun violence is a social issue. Believe me, the NYCHA situation is a total disgrace and there is no excuse for anyone to have to live in such conditions. What I disagree with is the mindset that's taken hold in the last 50 so odd years of people blaming everything around them for their own personal struggles. When you hear conservatives talk about the victim culture this is what we're talking about. If you refuse to apply personal agency to your life you'll never go anywhere no matter how much is redistributed your way. Many spoiled rich white folks have had their lives go up in smoke for similar reasons, so don't say it's all race/economics.
Gun violence is a social issue. Believe me, the NYCHA situation is a total disgrace and there is no excuse for anyone to have to live in such conditions. What I disagree with is the mindset that's taken hold in the last 50 so odd years of people blaming everything around them for their own personal struggles. When you hear conservatives talk about the victim culture this is what we're talking about. If you refuse to apply personal agency to your life you'll never go anywhere no matter how much is redistributed your way. Many spoiled rich white folks have had their lives go up in smoke for similar reasons, so don't say it's all race/economics.
Having been around rich white kids, yes all sorts of people have problems. Someone who has parents obsessed with the kid getting As and only going to top schools, is someone who has no real emotional support from their parents and sometimes they end of committing suicide. Or fall apart for other reasons.
The conservatives are a bunch of angry old white men who don't want to deal with emotional/social issues, so they come up with disparaging terms such as victim culture. Because by attaching negative labels on things, they hope to stop people from exploring the socioemotional issues that cause people to do destructive things.
Some of the most "conservative" people like priests end up molesting CHILDREN, we have "conservative" male politicians who get caught with either female or male hookers (Mr. Trump and Stormy Daniels) and these people have the nerve to run their mouths. Or we know why they have the nerve to run their mouths, to cover up the corruption they are engaging in.
But back to NYCHA, yes, anyone born or who has lived a significant portion of their lives in deplorable conditions will have significant psychological issues because of it. Not only that, we know lead contamination can lead to neurological damage, perhaps permanent neurological damage. We also know that being malnourished can lead to lower IQ among school children.
Of course the circumstances that one is raised in has substantial long term if not lifelong effects on someone. People who grow up in housing projects tend not to get the best teachers, and either have no tutors or crappy tutors.
I'm a former teacher. To tutor disadvantaged minority kids pays $9 an hour or so. $11 an hour to tutor disadvantaged CUNY community college students. To tutor well off white kids in Manhattan pays $40-60 dollars an hour or MORE.
So it's safe to say well off people, who are mostly white can get the creme of the crop for tutors. Wealthier school districts in the suburbs nationwide pay a lot better than impoverished communities, as money from education comes from property taxes and private donations/school fundraising, which are going to clearly be better in wealthier communities as opposed to poor communities. And there's a definite correlation between race and economics.
It's nearly (but not entirely) impossible for someone to go from the housing projects to Columbia or Harvard. Due to the vast social and family issues they face, it's often hard for someone from the projects to graduate from CUNY. Not even counting the effects that poverty can have on lowering ones IQ (lead poisoning, malnutrition, or other medical issues more prevalent among people with insufficient access to quality healthcare).
I don't think a single person in this thread would blame the city's problems on the "poor." The worst problems in the city are due to the government's well-intentioned but corrupt policies, the ruling class' inability to see beyond their nose, the mismanagement of the MTA, and the lack of a backbone our city government has to do something about gentrification and other issues.
I know for me personally that I have no problem with people being poor at all. Not everyone can be a doctor or banker. My problem is (beyond all that stuff I listed above) the fact that along with the working poor who don't bother anyone, NYCHA houses some pretty bad, horrible people.
I know firsthand that when my local NYCHA was forced to stop giving preference to working families, it was suddenly filled with an entire new class of people. Instead of working moms and dads trying to put food on the table but still raising their children in a stable, even if poor, home, it's now full of drug dealers, gang members, ex-shelter residents, etc.
Our neighborhood has seen an exceptional increase in crime. There is garbage strewn everywhere in the NYCHA near my house. You constantly hear sirens or outright SEE people being stabbed or hit with baseball bats on the streets. Our NYCHA now has graffitied walls, spit on the floor, blood in the hallways, dead rats in the hallways, garbage in the hallways, etc. The grass is like at eye level now too. This was unthinkable in our neighborhood years ago. Even if NYCHA itself doesn't maintain the grass, the people who used to live here would have pitched in and done it themselves. Our NYCHA was literally *that* nice. People didn't even lock their doors during my dad's generation here.
We also obviously realize (hello! We're not dumb, lol) that you can't just throw people out of NYCHA. But if we're talking "in a perfect world" here, that's what I would do.
Yesssss!!!! This was way overdue. At some point, there is simply no public money any more to support even the worthy causes, let alone unworthy ones. Unlike what some people seem to believe, there IS a legal way to evict tenants from subsidized housing, ie, for illegal activity in the building and noncompliance with the lease or other legal housing contract. It is just that NYCHA does not bother with evictions, but rest assured that the private company will. One third of the NYC poor will either rapidly become solid upright model citizens, or relocate to a milder climate where it hurts less to be homeless.
Yesssss!!!! This was way overdue. At some point, there is simply no public money any more to support even the worthy causes, let alone unworthy ones. Unlike what some people seem to believe, there IS a legal way to evict tenants from subsidized housing, ie, for illegal activity in the building and noncompliance with the lease or other legal housing contract. It is just that NYCHA does not bother with evictions, but rest assured that the private company will. One third of the NYC poor will either rapidly become solid upright model citizens, or relocate to a milder climate where it hurts less to be homeless.
If one gets criminal convictions, especially for activities done in the building one can indeed EASILY be evicted from the building.
In recent years as privatisations started to pick up, private developers upgraded security and put in a lot more cameras at some projects. At these projects crime went DOWN, as if you got busted on camera it was goodbye and the people who live there KNOW it.
Keep in mind there were organisers and protesters who campaigned against the gang violence in the projects.
This is my first time repping one of your posts.
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