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Politicians can always make your life Hell, regardless of any deals. If NY wanted to demonstrate that Amazon wasn't wanted, bailing before they'd made any major investment was exactly the right thing for them to do.
Yea, it probably made more sense for everyone but the real estate speculators in the immediate area at that point. Amazon is going to expand here regardless and they don't need a single unified development of just theirs to do so.
All the years I've been working with Amazon IT people around NYC. They all worked from home or from offices in soho. I still honestly don't know why they need a big office in NYC. Makes zero sense.
All of their servers are geographically located outside of NYC, there's no need to situate a large group of people in NYC. My co-worker who now works for Amazon prefers being in NJ so he doesn't have to pay NYC taxes and commute.
There's a large push to get IT people to move out of NYC so I can understand that LIC was atleast not in Manhattan where the land prices are 3-5x more.
I really think Amazon was in NYC because some of the decision makers had insider trading to sell property and information. They were not seriously going to hire 15,000 people into one office space. Makes absolutely zero sense. I don't know any tech company in NYC that has 5,000 people in one office location. The best tech worker is not necessarily found in NYC nor wants to live in NYC.
All the years I've been working with Amazon IT people around NYC. They all worked from home or from offices in soho. I still honestly don't know why they need a big office in NYC. Makes zero sense.
All of their servers are geographically located outside of NYC, there's no need to situate a large group of people in NYC. My co-worker who now works for Amazon prefers being in NJ so he doesn't have to pay NYC taxes and commute.
There's a large push to get IT people to move out of NYC so I can understand that LIC was atleast not in Manhattan where the land prices are 3-5x more.
I really think Amazon was in NYC because some of the decision makers had insider trading to sell property and information. They were not seriously going to hire 15,000 people into one office space. Makes absolutely zero sense. I don't know any tech company in NYC that has 5,000 people in one office location. The best tech worker is not necessarily found in NYC nor wants to live in NYC.
All the years I've been working with Amazon IT people around NYC. They all worked from home or from offices in soho. I still honestly don't know why they need a big office in NYC. Makes zero sense.
All of their servers are geographically located outside of NYC, there's no need to situate a large group of people in NYC. My co-worker who now works for Amazon prefers being in NJ so he doesn't have to pay NYC taxes and commute.
There's a large push to get IT people to move out of NYC so I can understand that LIC was atleast not in Manhattan where the land prices are 3-5x more.
I really think Amazon was in NYC because some of the decision makers had insider trading to sell property and information. They were not seriously going to hire 15,000 people into one office space. Makes absolutely zero sense. I don't know any tech company in NYC that has 5,000 people in one office location. The best tech worker is not necessarily found in NYC nor wants to live in NYC.
HQ2 would not be filled with data center or IT people. Think finance, corporate marketing, etc.
The trend nowadays is to move back to having people in the office than working remotely, which is why a big office makes sense to Amazon.
Amazon is so stupid. Amazon could have clearly moved into Hudson yards space and rented out one of the buildings for long term rent deal. Or even buy one of the buildings from related.
Amazon wants to own property, not rent it - just like they are building their own delivery service and cutting back from UPS
Google has 7000 employees in NYC right now, and are looking to add 10,000 more.
NYC is more about content creation, media, marketing, and finance, than nuts and bolts (server operations, etc.)
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All the years I've been working with Amazon IT people around NYC. They all worked from home or from offices in soho. I still honestly don't know why they need a big office in NYC. Makes zero sense.
All of their servers are geographically located outside of NYC, there's no need to situate a large group of people in NYC. My co-worker who now works for Amazon prefers being in NJ so he doesn't have to pay NYC taxes and commute.
There's a large push to get IT people to move out of NYC so I can understand that LIC was atleast not in Manhattan where the land prices are 3-5x more.
I really think Amazon was in NYC because some of the decision makers had insider trading to sell property and information. They were not seriously going to hire 15,000 people into one office space. Makes absolutely zero sense. I don't know any tech company in NYC that has 5,000 people in one office location. The best tech worker is not necessarily found in NYC nor wants to live in NYC.
All the years I've been working with Amazon IT people around NYC. They all worked from home or from offices in soho. I still honestly don't know why they need a big office in NYC. Makes zero sense.
All of their servers are geographically located outside of NYC, there's no need to situate a large group of people in NYC. My co-worker who now works for Amazon prefers being in NJ so he doesn't have to pay NYC taxes and commute.
There's a large push to get IT people to move out of NYC so I can understand that LIC was atleast not in Manhattan where the land prices are 3-5x more.
I really think Amazon was in NYC because some of the decision makers had insider trading to sell property and information. They were not seriously going to hire 15,000 people into one office space. Makes absolutely zero sense. I don't know any tech company in NYC that has 5,000 people in one office location. The best tech worker is not necessarily found in NYC nor wants to live in NYC.
They wanted a big office in NYC due to media. Advertising, publishing, music, and film are very much in NYC proper,
The problem is WHO had the agreement with Amazon to forgo future tax revenue for no solid commitments.
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