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AOC was able to stay off of the radar. Crowley barely knew she existed. Plus Crowley had an ethnicity problem Serrano doesn't.
Serrano, unlike Crowley, will actually try to defend his seat. I wonder if Crowley actually made an attempt, if he would have beaten AOC.
Though a smart man Crowley like many others in last election cycle were idiots, and or caught unawares. That the eegit Max Rose was able to sweep on SI thanks to efforts by outsiders is proof of how organized liberal/democratic progressive (largely transplants) were, and incumbents democrat or republican were not.
Crowley now is in an awkward spot. He could in theory go after that raving loon AOC in four or whatever years. But as he well knows beating an incumbent isn't easy.
Crowley's not coming back. Without the inertia of incumbency to keep him in the seat, he'll never overcome the negatives of being an angelo male in that district. It's her's as long as she wants it. Besides, at this point, he's probably perfectly happy being out. He signed onto a big lobbying firm, and will likely be making millions putting the arm on this old colleagues.
Of course, none of this applies to Serrano.
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Originally Posted by BugsyPal
Though a smart man Crowley like many others in last election cycle were idiots, and or caught unawares. That the eegit Max Rose was able to sweep on SI thanks to efforts by outsiders is proof of how organized liberal/democratic progressive (largely transplants) were, and incumbents democrat or republican were not.
Crowley now is in an awkward spot. He could in theory go after that raving loon AOC in four or whatever years. But as he well knows beating an incumbent isn't easy.
AOC was able to stay off of the radar. Crowley barely knew she existed. Plus Crowley had an ethnicity problem Serrano doesn't.
Serrano, unlike Crowley, will actually try to defend his seat. I wonder if Crowley actually made an attempt, if he would have beaten AOC.
Crowley's problem wasn't ethnicity as he was beaten in the white hipster areas. His problem is that he still thought that machine politics dominates NYC and so was too arrogant to campaign and had no constituent services so many in his district didn't even know who he was.
Serrano might well have the same problem, even if he attempts to defend his seat. Torres has been way more visible in recent years so actually has better name recognition. That district isn't traditionally Puerto Rican as it used to be and newer residents might want a change.
Crowley's problem wasn't ethnicity as he was beaten in the white hipster areas. His problem is that he still thought that machine politics dominates NYC and so was too arrogant to campaign and had no constituent services so many in his district didn't even know who he was.
Serrano might well have the same problem, even if he attempts to defend his seat. Torres has been way more visible in recent years so actually has better name recognition. That district isn't traditionally Puerto Rican as it used to be and newer residents might want a change.
That's his problem; the guy never shuts up. Every other GD day he's on this or that SJW outrage. This and or announcing or otherwise pushing legislation to solve issues that only exist either in his mind or something.
Just what NYC needs; two loudmouth SJW elected to Congress. AOC is bad enough, but Richie Torres is her on steroids. The pair of them in Washington would be a disaster.
Guess Mr. Big Mouth Torres is aiming high, and looking to get out ahead of the pack.
Mayor de Boob, comptroller, public advocate, all the borough BPs (IIRC), and all but a few city council seats are term limited out in 2021. That means an awful lot of soon to be out of work career NYC politicians are scheming and eyeing their next moves.
Since there can be only one mayor, comptroller, PA, etc... that limits those offices. Field will likely be crowded as the game of musical political chairs brings out former and current city council members looking for a new gig.
Guess Torres feels if he can pull off an upset in 2020 he's set not just for 2021 but life.
OTOH if he looses this 2020 race he's still got his city council term to finish out, and likely will run for this or that city wide office that next year. That and or go for something in Albany in 2022 when statewide elections are held.
Though a smart man Crowley like many others in last election cycle were idiots, and or caught unawares. That the eegit Max Rose was able to sweep on SI thanks to efforts by outsiders is proof of how organized liberal/democratic progressive (largely transplants) were, and incumbents democrat or republican were not.
Crowley now is in an awkward spot. He could in theory go after that raving loon AOC in four or whatever years. But as he well knows beating an incumbent isn't easy.
Rose came out of nowhere. However, Donovan didn't do himself any favors crying poverty and complaining how he couldn't afford his house on Staten Island and an apartment in DC which forced him to sleep on a cot in his office. That article combined with the homely picture of him sitting in is cot killed him with the voters.
The voters want someone to project strength, confidence, and power. Donovan lacked all of these. AOC is a nut job and is ignorant to how the world works. She has these traits and uses them because she believes her own press and she believes in what she is saying. Even if most of it is 100% wrong.
In 2014 Cuomo almost got a nasty surprise from Zephyr Teachout, but he had the firepower to pull it out. Next go around, when Nixon popped on the radar, he pulled out all the stops, and it wasn't really close.
Crowley's AOC disaster is the same wakeup call for Serrano. Torres isn't even being coy about it. Serrano has the power of incumbency, the backing of thebmachine,, likely more money, and almost two years to campaign. When they try (Crowley didnt), incubents usually don't lose, especially in primaries.
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Originally Posted by caribny
Crowley's problem wasn't ethnicity as he was beaten in the white hipster areas. His problem is that he still thought that machine politics dominates NYC and so was too arrogant to campaign and had no constituent services so many in his district didn't even know who he was.
Serrano might well have the same problem, even if he attempts to defend his seat. Torres has been way more visible in recent years so actually has better name recognition. That district isn't traditionally Puerto Rican as it used to be and newer residents might want a change.
Crowley's problem wasn't ethnicity as he was beaten in the white hipster areas. His problem is that he still thought that machine politics dominates NYC and so was too arrogant to campaign and had no constituent services so many in his district didn't even know who he was.
Serrano might well have the same problem, even if he attempts to defend his seat. Torres has been way more visible in recent years so actually has better name recognition. That district isn't traditionally Puerto Rican as it used to be and newer residents might want a change.
Those "white hipsters" have more in common (for the moment) with the minorities whose neighborhoods they have invaded, than anything else. Those outsiders flooded Staten Island to get Max Rose elected, and that worked for them as well.
In case of Crowley's former district those "white hipsters" are aligning themselves with minorities to protect their own interests; cheap housing after having been pushed out of Manhattan. On that and maybe a few other issues for now hipsters and minorities in that district can see eye to eye. Get back to me in a decade or so and report back how that coalition is getting along.
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