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Wait are you sure we dont already have a pretty active nightlife in Manhattan? Last time I checked, it appeared so.
I sure there are bars in Greenwich, Tribeca, and West Village. Maybe not a lot, but some. And the storefront sizes dont really allow for mega huge clubs anyways. But classic NYC bars that are like 5ft wide, and 20ft deep are around.
Huge drop off from the previous decades. There have been a war on liquor licenses for bars and restaurants from neighborhood NIMBY groups.
That has nothing to do with liberals. Well off people don't want lots of drunk idiots coming from all over to their residential neighbourhoods. Who wants to put down millions of dollars so some trashy filth can come by their neighbourhood?
Places that have too many nightclubs have vomit in the street, sex in the street, and all the stuff lots of people generally don't like.
Apparently you're a comparatively recent transplant. I was in NYC when Giuliani himself shut down half the nightlife in the city. Bloomberg got rid of a lot himself.
The only reason why nightlife had gotten that big is because after the city lost a million jobs and white flight, there were a lot of empty real estate including warehouses that had become super night clubs.
It makes you seem low IQ when you call everything you hate "liberal".
I cannot imagine Christian conservatives or Orthodox Jews loving nightclubs or would tolerate lots of nightclubs where they live either.
Let's not revise history. Giuliani went after peep and porn shops in and around TS. These don't constitute nightlife. Certain Bloomberg did not shut down bars and clubs either.
I grew up in Brooklyn (my family immigrated to the U.S. while I was 6 years old) back in the 70's, so I am not a transplant. We all know that you ARE a transplant. With that said, you seem to love using that to use in arguments here. Says a lot about your insecurities and dubious authority on things.
It doesn't have live dealers. But it will soon enough.
"Live" is a misnomer these days, Resorts Queens does have card games with dealers, but the dealers are AI computer animated on a giant 6 foot HDTV screen. There's no difference to a real person it's the same thing
"Live" is a misnomer these days, Resorts Queens does have card games with dealers, but the dealers are AI computer animated on a giant 6 foot HDTV screen. There's no difference to a real person it's the same thing
That is much different. Part of the Vegas experience is all the real people working.
Let's not revise history. Giuliani went after peep and porn shops in and around TS. These don't constitute nightlife. Certain Bloomberg did not shut down bars and clubs either.
I grew up in Brooklyn (my family immigrated to the U.S. while I was 6 years old) back in the 70's, so I am not a transplant. We all know that you ARE a transplant. With that said, you seem to love using that to use in arguments here. Says a lot about your insecurities and dubious authority on things.
Giuliani's war on crime also was a war on nightlife, as obviously people go to clubs to find drugs. That's how the city lost many of the nightclubs.
So if you grew up in Brooklyn, you know that, as well as I do, as I was in Queens in the 90s.
So if you are saying otherwise, it means you're a liar.
Conservatives do not like nightlife, for the same reasons other people don't like them in their neighborhoods.
Staten Island, known for being conservative does not permit a lot of nightlife (I do not blame them as who wants fools vomitting all over the place, trashing their neighborhood, fights, property destruction, among other serious issues/disorderly conduct).
Now back to being conservative, or liberal, or whatever, I have no problem with people's political affiliations. When people lie to just make people on their "side" look good, it's absolutely horrible.
Anyone who claims that Giuliani was a friend of nightlife when he shut down half the city and even when the NYPost (which gave him very favorable coverage) admits this is an absolute liar.
Oh, the New York Times wasn't as liberal then. They loved Giuliani and endorsed him both times.
Mind you, I think the city needed to get rid of nightclubs because they were occupying prime real estate, especially in former industrial areas the city wanted to gentrify. I understand and I support why Giuliani AND Bloomberg did this.
I see you spent some time on google trying to find any opinion pieces to support your point. All I got out of those links of yours was that Giuliani tried to enforce cabaret laws, which has been in existence since 1920's (predating Giuliani by some 70 years) and going after nightclubs that were known drug dens or trouble spots for violence.
Law abiding and trouble free clubs were left alone. It is interesting though that a quote from one of your links says this:
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Around the same time, local community boards across the city were becoming more powerful and denying licenses to wannabe hotspots. The hoity toity board members didn't want noise or "bad people" in their neighborhoods. Welcome to the new New York.
This pretty much supports my argument. It is NIMBYism that doomed restaurants and bars, not Rudy or Bloomy.
As for you being born in NYC somehow means you are an authority on all things NYC. You must be joking right?
It's also games other than slot machines and video poker, which is all they really have in the NYC area slot barns. I personally want a local casino with a really good live poker room.
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That is much different. Part of the Vegas experience is all the real people working.
"Live" is a misnomer these days, Resorts Queens does have card games with dealers, but the dealers are AI computer animated on a giant 6 foot HDTV screen. There's no difference to a real person it's the same thing
They were not legally allowed to have live dealers when they opened up in Queens. The law legalizing casinos in NYC doesn't permit them to have live dealers until 2020. The law allowing casinos allows four upstate and three downstate/NYC.
So Resorts World and Empire City will soon get REAL, live dealers, and some place in NYC can get one more casino.
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