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Yep. Unvaccinated kid travels to a place with an active measles outbreak. Contracts the disease, brings it home and spreads it to others in his mostly unvaccinated community.
Most people will not get it, but the more anti vaxxers the more people at risk. I don’t care about the anti vaxxers putting themselves at risk. That’s their choice. I do have an issue with them putting kids too young for vaccines and people who have legitimate medical reasons they can’t get vaccinated at risk.
Let them do as they wish. Just don’t allow them to send their unvaccinated spawn to daycares, public schools or colleges that have mandatory vaccination policies.
That's true. I would understand if this was a new vaccine but this vaccine has been around for how long.
I it not MORE ridiculous to presume, without evidence, that any vaccine would give a lifetime of protection?
I am sure that getting Mumps or Rubella along with the first Social Security check is risky business indeed. Perhaps POSTPONING a childhood illness is the worst way to deal with the problem.
That's true. I would understand if this was a new vaccine but this vaccine has been around for how long.
56 years, since 1963.
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Originally Posted by Kefir King
I it not MORE ridiculous to presume, without evidence, that any vaccine would give a lifetime of protection?
I am sure that getting Mumps or Rubella along with the first Social Security check is risky business indeed. Perhaps POSTPONING a childhood illness is the worst way to deal with the problem.
I meant don't be ridiculous to think that adults are supposed to get every vaccine out there. Some are for special circumstances and travel.
Vaccines don't POSTPONE illness, the PREVENT it. In the Rockland County outbreak, only 15% of cases are over the age of 19. No boosters for measles vaccine are recommended in adulthood because the vaccine gives long term, presumably lifetime immunity (though it will have to be out a lot longer before we can say lifetime). While we are having measles outbreaks, we haven't had any rubella outbreaks.
I meant don't be ridiculous to think that adults are supposed to get every vaccine out there. Some are for special circumstances and travel.
Vaccines don't POSTPONE illness, the PREVENT it. In the Rockland County outbreak, only 15% of cases are over the age of 19. No boosters for measles vaccine are recommended in adulthood because the vaccine gives long term, presumably lifetime immunity (though it will have to be out a lot longer before we can say lifetime). While we are having measles outbreaks, we haven't had any rubella outbreaks.
A person who was immune to measles or certain other diseases could lose that immunity over time, especially if there are other serious health risks.
I work in a school so because I work with the public, I had my MMR titers tested. I'm still fully immune at 54.
Do you not think it possible
that you have been re-inoculated over the years by infected kids?
Ukraine has the world's worst measles epidemic (54,000 last year and going strong this year) and it is largely infecting the adult population that WERE immunized before 2001, when they discontinued a defective vaccine.
THAT is the kind of thing that gives me pause. Adult measles is more dangerous.
Nearly all of the ARB's (blood pressure medication) have been recalled because they were "contaminated" with carcinogenic impurities.
People screw up, corporations screw up, governments screw up and god knows, doctors screw up. Should we, without thought, open up our bloodstreams to them willy-nilly?
Not the measles vaccine, the AIDS vaccine, nor the Hepatitis vaccines were in use in 1789. SO that is NOT "settled science"...except for cowpox and dairy maids. You made a silly statement assuming all vaccines were equally safe and effective.
All vaccines are not the equivalent to the 1798 variety, as you well pretend NOT to know.
Hep B and whatever else was in it was VERY WELL tested by the more gullible of the gay community who trusted a homophobic government NOT to attempt a genocide/sexocide? The test was a failure (or a success if you are enough of a Nazi) unleashing AIDS on the gay population and killing hundreds of thousands of young men.
Please provide solid proof that Hep B vaccinations of gay men deliberately included HIV, and that this was a deliberate attempt to wipe out gay people. Now obviously the government delayed the necessary research on treatment and on cures, due to homophobia and that cost many their lives.
Do you not think it possible
that you have been re-inoculated over the years by infected kids?
Ukraine has the world's worst measles epidemic (54,000 last year and going strong this year) and it is largely infecting the adult population that WERE immunized before 2001, when they discontinued a defective vaccine.
THAT is the kind of thing that gives me pause. Adult measles is more dangerous.
Nearly all of the ARB's (blood pressure medication) have been recalled because they were "contaminated" with carcinogenic impurities.
People screw up, corporations screw up, governments screw up and god knows, doctors screw up. Should we, without thought, open up our bloodstreams to them willy-nilly?
At the same time you can countries with poor healthcare. Lots of people die young, even as children.
Please provide solid proof that Hep B vaccinations of gay men deliberately included HIV, and that this was a deliberate attempt to wipe out gay people. Now obviously the government delayed the necessary research on treatment and on cures, due to homophobia and that cost many their lives.
Plenty of plausible deniability to go around.
I am reporting ONLY the outcome that I witnessed, and I am not ascribing motives, just the result at one of the two (NY and SF) or 3 (NY, SF and LA) locations, not sure which: a massive, deadly vaccination trial screw-up that ultimately killed thousands upon thousands of gay men.
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