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Old 04-19-2019, 08:34 PM
 
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Good. Let's take care of our own first.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...v7y-story.html

The Trump administration wants to kick thousands of undocumented immigrants out of public housing.

The Department of Housing and Urban Development proposed a rule change this week that would ensure only citizens and legal residents have access to federally subsidized housing nationwide.

The measure would force local housing authorities like NYCHA to expand their use of a homeland security program designed to help government agencies verify someone’s immigration or citizenship status to see if they are eligible for benefits.

HUD claims the changes are meant to address long wait lists for public housing. Some 200,000 families are on the wait list at NYCHA, where there’s only a vacancy rate of 1%, officials said.

“The new HUD proposal is yet another attempt to advance the Trump Administration’s xenophobic agenda,” Judith Goldiner of the Legal Aid Society said. "This latest attack on immigrant families is an effort to strip them of the fundamental human right to housing, and it has nothing to do with HUD’s false claim around shortening waiting lists.”

HUD says the proposal will close a “loophole” that allows residents to declare themselves “ineligible” and still live in supported housing without revealing their immigration status.

“Thanks to @realDonaldTrump’s leadership, we are putting America’s most vulnerable first,” HUD Secretary Ben Carson tweeted on Thursday. “Our nation faces affordable housing challenges and hundreds of thousands of citizens are waiting for many years on waitlists to get housing assistance.”

Undocumented immigrants are already barred from getting federal housing subsidies. But they’re allowed to live in public housing if at least one person in their household is a citizen, permanent resident, refugee or asylum seeker.

All public housing residents under 62 years old will be screened through the Department of Homeland Security’s Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements, or SAVE.

Residents won’t be allowed to opt-out of the screening and any households with undocumented immigrants could lose their housing after just 18 months, according to HUD.

About 32,000 households that get federal housing assistance are headed by people who aren’t legal U.S. residents, according to a HUD estimate. Between 22,000 and 25,000 households living in public housing or using rental vouchers have at least one family member who is undocumented, according to another estimate from the National Low Income Housing Coalition.

Advocates believe most of these households are New York City, Texas and California. Neither HUD nor NYCHA would provide an estimate as to how many city public housing residents would be affected by the measure.

The Legal Aid Society has a meeting with NYCHA on Monday to discuss the proposal’s potential impact, though the city plans to fight the proposal.

“We refuse to let President Trump take away housing from hardworking New Yorkers, and will fight this proposed rule,” de Blasio spokeswoman Olivia Lapeyrolerie said.

The measure was proposed late Wednesday night as much of the country braced for the hotly-anticipated release of special counsel Robert Mueller’s report on his investigation into into Russia’s attempts to influence the 2016 election.

Congress has 15 days to review the proposed regulation before it publishes the amendments.
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Old 04-19-2019, 08:48 PM
 
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I'm guessing the Democratic controlled side will shut this down. The effort will go over well with the conservative base as intended. Trump could have passed this when the Republicans controlled both sides of Congress but instead he waited until the Democrats could block it. Typical of modern politics, only go for substance when the opposition has the power to stop you. For the record the Democrats are just as bad at playing this game.
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Old 04-19-2019, 09:38 PM
 
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Can HUD do this unilaterally? If so, all the usual suspects will have their panties in a bunch.
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Old 04-19-2019, 09:42 PM
 
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This really is a sensible thing to do. There is no reason why criminal aliens should be receiving government housing over U.S. citizens. It is disgusting. Wait lists can be 10 years to get into NYCHA apartments.
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Old 04-19-2019, 11:42 PM
 
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Good. Why the hell should illegal immigrants be entitled to NYCHA? You do not have the "right" to housing in a country that you're not a citizen of.
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Old Yesterday, 12:13 AM
 
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Bravo!!!!
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Old Yesterday, 01:56 AM
 
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Another thing:

"This latest attack on immigrant families is an effort to strip them of the fundamental human right to housing, and it has nothing to do with HUD’s false claim around shortening waiting lists.”


This is such a disingenuous statement designed to drum up sympathy. THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT IMMIGRANTS. An immigrant is someone who jumps through the numerous and onerous legal and practical hoops to come to another country in full compliance with the law. Allowing illegal immigrants to get any sort of government subsidy is a slap in the face to all those who do follow the rules. Point blank, period.

I have said it on many other threads. I am as bleeding heart liberal as you can get but not on this. So sick and tired of people pushing this "but think of the poor immigrants!" agenda when they are here illegally. They are not immigrants. They are criminals.
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Old Yesterday, 04:02 AM
 
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Say what?!! This is even a thing. I know that they can enroll in school and get free health benefits but I had no idea they could live in NYCHA. They have sure figured out the system. I definitely support this initiative. There is no reason they should be living in subsidized housing. Actual citizens and residents are waiting years for the chance.

Said as a black immigrant too. Maybe I can move to the Maldives or France and see what kind of scamming I can get up to lol.
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Old Yesterday, 07:28 AM
 
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I'm surprised too. How did they get in in the first place?
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Old Yesterday, 07:31 AM
 
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I'm surprised too. How did they get in in the first place?

deblasio
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