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Old 07-03-2019, 09:08 PM
 
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I never quite get around to them, but...

New York’s Vanishing Diners
The death of diner culture has been predicted for years, but there’s still some life remaining


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/24/r...ng-diners.html
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Old 07-03-2019, 09:50 PM
 
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There is plenty of demand for diners still. They're often very crowded when I go
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Old 07-03-2019, 10:18 PM
 
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It's a hard business that's squeezed by all the pressures that are squeezing a lot of business in NYC.
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Old 07-03-2019, 10:22 PM
 
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I have eaten in that new Georgia Diner that is featured on the top of the link. It used to be called Nevada Diner.

Diners are not dying. They will shrink of course. Certain demographics wont eat there.

In gentrified areas of Manhattan they may go away. The Yuppies and Hipsters dont eat that stuff. There was a diner on 10th and 52nd called City Lights that got converted to a wine bar, but that aint doing too well either on 10th Ave. The Empire Diner on 10th and 22nd went away a long time ago, and that an NYC institution. Apparently the Moonstruck on 31st and 3rd is still going strong.

Is the Tick Tock still around? There was the Coral Diner on Broadway and 158th that is gone now too. Kane's diner in Flushing is also gone, and I ate there not too long ago, but that demographic wont eat diner food either.

They are still going strong in the burbs. I think these owners should expand to other areas of country.

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Old 07-03-2019, 10:35 PM
 
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One possibility is that their supply chain got really screwed up over the last few decades as they switched over to a lot of cut rate frozen crap. They were able to keep expanding the menu, but a lot of what they offered kept on dipping in quality. If that's the case, there's still room for a good diner format and its menu, but with better food. There's been a good number of revamped or altogether new diners which offer such, but those price points relative to other diners might not be so attractive.
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Old 07-03-2019, 10:36 PM
 
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Oh, I love diners. It's the ultimate in comfort food and a bit above fast food.
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Old 07-04-2019, 02:36 AM
 
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I have eaten in that new Georgia Diner that is featured on the top of the link. It used to be called Nevada Diner.

Diners are not dying. They will shrink of course. Certain demographics wont eat there.

In gentrified areas of Manhattan they may go away. The Yuppies and Hipsters dont eat that stuff. There was a diner on 10th and 52nd called City Lights that got converted to a wine bar, but that aint doing too well either on 10th Ave. The Empire Diner on 10th and 22nd went away a long time ago, and that an NYC institution. Apparently the Moonstruck on 31st and 3rd is still going strong.

Is the Tick Tock still around? There was the Coral Diner on Broadway and 158th that is gone now too. Kane's diner in Flushing is also gone, and I ate there not too long ago, but that demographic wont eat diner food either.

They are still going strong in the burbs. I think these owners should expand to other areas of country.
That is not true. The Kellogg Diner in Williamsburg is usually packed when I'm over there. Maybe pretentious yuppies won't eat at diners, but hipsters sure do, especially when drunk. There's a diner in Bushwick that opened up not too long ago.
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Old 07-04-2019, 02:38 AM
 
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One possibility is that their supply chain got really screwed up over the last few decades as they switched over to a lot of cut rate frozen crap. They were able to keep expanding the menu, but a lot of what they offered kept on dipping in quality. If that's the case, there's still room for a good diner format and its menu, but with better food. There's been a good number of revamped or altogether new diners which offer such, but those price points relative to other diners might not be so attractive.
I generally avoid anything from diners besides breakast food and American sandwiches/burgers.
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Old 07-04-2019, 06:41 AM
 
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I generally avoid anything from diners besides breakast food and American sandwiches/burgers.
I just wish I could find one with an actually good chili.
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Old 07-04-2019, 01:16 PM
 
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The Yuppies and Hipsters dont eat that stuff.

Until it suddenly becomes "hip" to do so.

I can see Hipsters fueling a resurgence of diners, just at they (and the hippies before them) did with "granny dresses" in the 1960s, and stovepipe hats in the 1990s.

Of course, Hipsters will only eat in diners "ironically."
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