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Old Yesterday, 12:47 PM
 
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Tower-in-the-Park housing -- otherwise known as Commie Blocks -- invite people to loiter. Bad idea for projects. You put shaded, tree lined promenades with rows of benches, water sprinklers, and basketball courts with glass backboards what do you expect? Of course people are going to spend all night and half the day there.
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Old Yesterday, 01:01 PM
 
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As a kid growing up in a nycha development I liked the "tower in the park" design, especially because at that time the surrounding neighborhood was so crappy. The city run parks were full of broken glass and broken play equipment, like missing swings, broken see saws ect. However inside my development we had at least 4 parks, grass to play football, baseball fields and basketball courts. We could also run and ride our bikes freely.

I don't think the design is the flaw. I'm sure residents in congested places like manhattan or the bronx like the extra space. The problem is just that some developments were built in isolated areas or slums that up until recently most ppl wouldn't want to live (even long island city fit this description up until recently) and the residents had little access to decent schools, recreation or anything positive. Now times have changed. I think they want to re-street the projects now so the developers can get their hands on all that extra space
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Old Yesterday, 06:08 PM
 
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Interesting opinions from all.

I am particulary focused on the retail impact of it. There are currently several NYCHA with commercial property on it that I know of. How can the retail boost the area?
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Old Yesterday, 06:10 PM
 
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Interesting opinions from all.

I am particulary focused on the retail impact of it. There are currently several NYCHA with commercial property on it that I know of. How can the retail boost the area?
It depends what kind of retail. If it's just bodegas and low end supermarkets, I'm not sure if it would change much
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Old Yesterday, 06:57 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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The projects are not that far from the rest of the communities. The garden spaces are not that huge on all the projects.

Take the Bland Houses in Flushing. Its right next to Skyview, and Roosevelt ave. Yet, all the businesses are still all chinese and do not cater to the residents of the project.

The ones in Morningside Heights on Amsterdam Ave can still get out and about. Same for the Chelsea projects, and the ones in Chinatown by the FDR.
Yea, most of the businesses are Chinese, but there are definitely people from the projects who actually shop in Skyview and it’s for the better. Is anyone really going to disagree that the Bland Houses are doing better than most other NYC housing projects?
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Old Yesterday, 07:00 PM
 
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It’s hard to tell if re-streeting was the answer all along because the projects at their nadir were a very different context and were from a city at its nadir whether it was projects or not. In principle, I think it’s a good idea.
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Old Today, 10:14 AM
 
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Interesting opinions from all.

I am particulary focused on the retail impact of it. There are currently several NYCHA with commercial property on it that I know of. How can the retail boost the area?



Well the "residents" will have more options to steal from for one.
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Old Today, 07:44 PM
 
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Yea, most of the businesses are Chinese, but there are definitely people from the projects who actually shop in Skyview and it’s for the better. Is anyone really going to disagree that the Bland Houses are doing better than most other NYC housing projects?
They have no food options. Target is not a proper supermarket. Its mostly processed cardboard food. Western Beef is gone. There is the Naked Crab the project denizens can go to. There used to be an Applebees but that is gone.

They need some soul food I reckon. There only real options are McDs, BK, and Popeyes. Plus its not like the project denizens can find gainful employment across the street until they learn Potunghua (Mandarin).

I think that is the reason why the College Point Shoprite stays open so late. They know they will get all them customers who lost their local market to chinese supermarket.

Now there is the projects north of Northern Blvd. They have the Pathmark Plaza with the Wendys. I think they be better off.
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