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Old 07-22-2019, 10:06 AM
 
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"Is it “manicotti” or “manigoat”?

I'm sure the Staten Island pronounciations come from southern Italian dialects.



Nah it comes from Brooklyn meatheads.
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Old 07-22-2019, 10:54 AM
 
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Nah it comes from Brooklyn meatheads.
Yeah that too
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Old 07-22-2019, 01:17 PM
 
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Lower Manhattan it was Manigut, Gabagool, Mootzerella. Otherwise you're dis in un botza, disgraziada.
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Old 07-22-2019, 02:30 PM
 
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Nah it comes from Brooklyn meatheads.
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Old 07-22-2019, 02:40 PM
 
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Lower Manhattan it was Manigut, Gabagool, Mootzerella. Otherwise you're dis in un botza, disgraziada.
Watched Dom DeLuise in "Fatso" the other day which was set in the Village and partially shot on location (195 Spring St, and 172 Prince Street). People forget or don't realize just how much of West and Greenwich Village was Italian back in the day, and not just "Little Italy" either.

Bit more trivia; Anne Bancroft, one of the stars of film "Fatso" was full blooded Italian from the Bronx! Her birth name was Anna Maria Louisa (or Luisa?) Italiano. Later in life she would buy and live in a brownstone on West 11th street in the Village.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm0vgAnHQzQ
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Old 07-22-2019, 03:00 PM
 
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Watched Dom DeLuise in "Fatso" the other day which was set in the Village and partially shot on location (195 Spring St, and 172 Prince Street). People forget or don't realize just how much of West and Greenwich Village was Italian back in the day, and not just "Little Italy" either.

Bit more trivia; Anne Bancroft, one of the stars of film "Fatso" was full blooded Italian from the Bronx! Her birth name was Anna Maria Louisa (or Luisa?) Italiano. Later in life she would buy and live in a brownstone on West 11th street in the Village.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm0vgAnHQzQ
Nice. I've never see this. Thank you.

Sometimes I can't believe how the place has changed. We used to have a feast (just like San Gennaro) on Carmine Street, the Pompeii Feast, and another one on Sullivan from West 3rd street all the way down to Broome, that was Saint Anthony's Feast. Even the non Italian neighborhood people were so immersed in Italian culture they all spoke some Italian slang. The West Village was just a continuation of Little Italy that ran right through SOHO.
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Old 07-22-2019, 03:16 PM
 
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Honorable mention:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QOe1_PSGLM

Many old school Italian families owned property in Greenwich and West Village. They did or are doing well now that values down there have gone through the roof.
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Old 07-22-2019, 03:24 PM
 
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Nice. I've never see this. Thank you.

Sometimes I can't believe how the place has changed. We used to have a feast (just like San Gennaro) on Carmine Street, the Pompeii Feast, and another one on Sullivan from West 3rd street all the way down to Broome, that was Saint Anthony's Feast. Even the non Italian neighborhood people were so immersed in Italian culture they all spoke some Italian slang. The West Village was just a continuation of Little Italy that ran right through SOHO.
Anne Bancroft was god mother to one of Dom Deluise's sons.

Entire film is on YT in six parts with some good location scenes:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6s3PvBk-Kc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ufmtjl6g1U
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Old 07-22-2019, 03:39 PM
 
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Does anyone in Italy still speak like that?
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Old 07-22-2019, 04:20 PM
 
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As with other European countries Italy has many different dialects. Coupled with this many who immigrated to USA in 1800's and early 1900's were often poor and or illiterate peasants. They spoke "their language" which was later adapted (or changed) as generations made their homes in North America.

Then you have stuff like this: https://www.thoughtco.com/sicilian-f...inners-2011648

Keep in mind large numbers of Italian immigrants to USA came from Sicily and Naples. In both places education has been standardized for some time; so kids learn "Italian", but that does not mean they don't learn or know Sicilian or Neapolitan as spoken within their family, or area where they live.

Federico Castelluccio (Furio Ginuta in Sopranos) was born in Naples, but moved to NJ when he was about four. Likely spoke fluent Napoletano with his parents, hence he had one of the better Italian accents in the whole Sopranos cast.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCv6bPc6hFo
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