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Old 07-29-2019, 10:55 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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You mean the demographic is very highly educated yet can barely afford to be alive thanks to the policies of old conservative/establishment politicians? Sorry that we're young and are more worried about climate change because we're much further from our life expectancy age than old people. Sorry we're more worried about the minimum wage because we have friends with college degrees that are forced to live off of it. Sorry we're more worried about healthcare costs, especially since many of us that attended college are actually very worldly and studied abroad where we experienced the benefits and wonders of universal healthcare. Sorry we're more worried about people being able to afford rent even though they have graduate degrees and we don't really care about greedy landlords or NIMBYs. Sorry we're anti-car because we grew up seeing the horrors of suburbia and ran away from it into the cities and we'd like reliable/safe/clean/affordable public transit like the rest of the world has.

Also we're far more diverse and educated and have a greater interest in traveling than older generations, so I'm not sure where you come up with this idea that young people who like AOC are not worldly.

Call me old, but whatever happened to, "If you can't afford it, just don't buy it?"

Seriously, I didn't go to law school because I couldn't afford it. I almost passed out when I learned that I had to take out a 100K loan for a career that I'd know would pay me only 45K a year. So I did my research and stuck with IT instead - did my Masters and never regretted my decision. And guess what? I don't owe one penny of student loans, nor do I expect taxpayers to pay for me.

The Green New Deal may seem cool to you, but it was actually written by globalists who want socialism for the entire world. You are not going to benefit from the clean new deal - they are. Your peasant ass is going to be eating crackers like in the movie, "Soylent Green"
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Old 07-29-2019, 11:09 AM
 
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The Green New Deal may seem cool to you, but it was actually written by globalists who want socialism for the entire world. You are not going to benefit from the clean new deal - they are. Your peasant ass is going to be eating crackers like in the movie, "Soylent Green"
Post of the week.

And for those of you who don't know...Soylent Green is people, man.
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Old 07-29-2019, 11:17 AM
 
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Post of the week.

And for those of you who don't know...Soylent Green is people, man.
I don't know why people think that the Green New Deal will benefit them. The reason why we have pollution and many unclean foods is simply because the demand for food and energy is great. Cut energy and unclean foods, and everyone will have to go back to living like people did so back in the series, "Little House on the Prairie." In the meantime, half of the starry eyed millennials on here wont' survive one day without their iPhones! They know not what they're asking for.
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Old 07-29-2019, 12:29 PM
 
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It would be more like Lost than Little House. Forget about having any creature comforts, forget refrigerators, forget AC, forget flushing toilets, you know they will regulate that down to a thimble-full per flush. The beaches will be full of people beating their laundry against the jetty rocks when the washer/dryer gets added to the list after such evils as the internal combustion engine. At least on Little House they got to keep their farting horses.
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Old 07-29-2019, 02:53 PM
 
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I don't know why people think that the Green New Deal will benefit them. The reason why we have pollution and many unclean foods is simply because the demand for food and energy is great. Cut energy and unclean foods, and everyone will have to go back to living like people did so back in the series, "Little House on the Prairie." In the meantime, half of the starry eyed millennials on here wont' survive one day without their iPhones! They know not what they're asking for.
Wait

So basically you're saying there's no way to satisfy energy demand/food demand unless there is pollution?

Might as well stop recycling and stop eating fruit/vegetables then, whats the point

Bring incinerators back too
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Old 07-29-2019, 03:08 PM
 
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Modern life as we know it wouldn't be possible without fossil fuels and petrochemicals. The planet could probably not sustain anywhere near the people it does without them. They're in things you've probably never thought of, like fertilizer. Think about how much less productive agriculture would be without both fossil fuel based mechanization and transportation, the aforementioned fertilizer and other things I'm likely not even thinking of. So you're fruits and veggies are to a large extent oil based. This doesn't even include other fields like medicine.

So, pretty much yes.

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Wait

So basically you're saying there's no way to satisfy energy demand/food demand unless there is pollution?

Might as well stop recycling and stop eating fruit/vegetables then, whats the point

Bring incinerators back too
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Old 07-29-2019, 05:09 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Modern life as we know it wouldn't be possible without fossil fuels and petrochemicals. The planet could probably not sustain anywhere near the people it does without them. They're in things you've probably never thought of, like fertilizer. Think about how much less productive agriculture would be without both fossil fuel based mechanization and transportation, the aforementioned fertilizer and other things I'm likely not even thinking of. So you're fruits and veggies are to a large extent oil based. This doesn't even include other fields like medicine.

So, pretty much yes.
Not to mention the plastic containers food is kept in which are discarded, the petroleum used to farm for large cities, the hormones and antibiotics given to chickens to make them hurry up and grow so that they can be made available to a demanding public, trucks and other large vehicles needed to transport food to city people - as many urbanites know nothing about farming, lets see what else.. Heating and energy in buildings - mostly a mix from Nuclear energy and petroleum...

There are so many things that The Green New Deal will get rid of - I think it's going to be done on purpose to reduce the population.
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Old 07-29-2019, 05:11 PM
 
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Modern life as we know it wouldn't be possible without fossil fuels and petrochemicals. The planet could probably not sustain anywhere near the people it does without them. They're in things you've probably never thought of, like fertilizer. Think about how much less productive agriculture would be without both fossil fuel based mechanization and transportation, the aforementioned fertilizer and other things I'm likely not even thinking of. So you're fruits and veggies are to a large extent oil based. This doesn't even include other fields like medicine.

So, pretty much yes.
Who told you that lie

Read about Henry Ford and hemp and get back at me

Thats what they want to you believe
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Old 07-29-2019, 05:12 PM
 
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Not to mention the plastic containers food is kept in which are discarded, the petroleum used to farm for large cities, the hormones and antibiotics given to chickens to make them hurry up and grow so that they can be made available to a demanding public, trucks and other large vehicles needed to transport food to city people - as many urbanites know nothing about farming, lets see what else.. Heating and energy in buildings - mostly a mix from Nuclear energy and petroleum...

There are so many things that The Green New Deal will get rid of - I think it's going to be done on purpose to reduce the population.
Sounds like you just want to justify your new SUV purchase
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Old 07-30-2019, 07:51 AM
 
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Sounds like you just want to justify your new SUV purchase
Not everyone here is as rich as you are!
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