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Old 07-23-2019, 09:26 PM
 
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You can argue about if the tax breaks where necessary, and if jobs aren't created anyway. But for HER DISTRICT - LIC - it would have been a MAJOR boost.

Amazon would've been located in Carolyn Maloney's district, CD-12.
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Old Yesterday, 07:11 AM
 
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What exactly has she done for that district? What has her "Squad" done for their constituents beside holler and yell about Donald Trump, ICE, the boarder "concentration" camps, Nancy Pelosi, etc?
Normally I wouldn't risk a Hadoken by contesting you but, ...to be fair, Ilhan Omar at least is representing her constituency; a terrorist sympathizer, who committed immigration fraud by marrying her biological brother, that swore in on a Koran, presiding over illegaly imported Muslim Somalian shills, a significant portion of whom are terrorist sympathizers themselves, if not actual terrorists.
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Old Yesterday, 08:11 AM
 
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Youíre confusing things, where Amazon would have located in LIC is not part of her district. And more importantly, AOCís job is to fight for her constituents, not corporations. Her constituents are lower middle class, and poor, most of whom would not qualify to work at Amazon. The jobs at Amazon would have been filled by mostly non New Yorkers moving to the city to work for Amazon specifically. The biggest impact amazon would have had on her constituents was to raise their rents.

Now to be fair, her constituents also include landlords who would have seen their property values go up quicker with Amazon but thatís not who sheís campaigned for. Sheís made no effort to hide the fact the poor and disadvantaged are her primary focus. Besides, amazon pulling out of LIC doesnít actually harm her home-owning constitutes, it just means their property values wonít increase as fast.
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Amazon would've been located in Carolyn Maloney's district, CD-12.
Again quoting for emphasis lol
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Old Yesterday, 08:21 AM
 
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Nobody will address that post.

Same song and dance around here.

In all honesty, now I'm like how did AOC win with so much hate coming her way?
Any time someone uses actual facts on this forum, they are either ignored, called fake news, branded as CNN-brainwashed, etc.

AOC won because her district likes her. These people hating on her are not from her district. She got her name out for people to vote for her. She got free publicity by winning the primary. Also, her district is almost 50% Latino, 11% black, and 16% Asian. They were represented by an old white man. He may have been one of the good ones, but when only 18% of the district is white, it's hard to say 57 year old white man could fully understand the needs of his extremely minority-heavy district. Again, I'm not saying he was out of touch, I'm just laying the facts here.

Then, you have a young, charismatic, educated Latina. For an under-served, minority-majority district that is almost 50% Latino, seeing the name "Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez" makes you feel like she's more one of you. Whether it's true or not, I guarantee her age and name assisted her greatly in a young, minority-heavy district.
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Old Yesterday, 08:33 AM
 
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Any time someone uses actual facts on this forum, they are either ignored, called fake news, branded as CNN-brainwashed, etc.

AOC won because her district likes her. These people hating on her are not from her district. She got her name out for people to vote for her. She got free publicity by winning the primary. Also, her district is almost 50% Latino, 11% black, and 16% Asian. They were represented by an old white man. He may have been one of the good ones, but when only 18% of the district is white, it's hard to say 57 year old white man could fully understand the needs of his extremely minority-heavy district. Again, I'm not saying he was out of touch, I'm just laying the facts here.

Then, you have a young, charismatic, educated Latina. For an under-served, minority-majority district that is almost 50% Latino, seeing the name "Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez" makes you feel like she's more one of you. Whether it's true or not, I guarantee her age and name assisted her greatly in a young, minority-heavy district.
She won in Congressional District 14 of New York with only about 16,000 votes. The total population of District 14 is just under 700,000, which means that only a bit more than 2% of the districtís population voted for her.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/impress...tes-1532444133
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Old Yesterday, 08:44 AM
 
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Most voters stayed home for stunning AOC win

Here’s what you get when you hold primary elections in June: A tiny percentage of party voters determine the congressional candidates.

Even in the most competitive races Tuesday, more than 80 percent of eligible voters stayed home.

In the race that caused an earthquake in the Democratic Party, 28-year-old newcomer Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez upset longtime Rep. Joe Crowley, 57 percent to 42 percent.

But only about 13 percent of registered Democrats turned out to vote in the 14th Congressional District that takes in parts of Queens and the Bronx, according to a preliminary city Board of Elections tally.

There are 214,750 active registered Democratic voters in the district. Only 27,744 voted, and Ocasio-Cortez won by more than 4,000 votes
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Old Yesterday, 08:46 AM
 
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I didn't vote and I regret it. I just simply wasn't paying attention, which I think is the case with most voters. So, who knows - if the election were re-run, would Crowley win in a landslide, after voters in the district became aware that AOC's vision doesn't match their own? Maybe.

There were so few voting in this election that it's inaccurate to make statements like, "AOC won because her district likes her."
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Old Yesterday, 08:58 AM
 
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She won in Congressional District 14 of New York with only about 16,000 votes. The total population of District 14 is just under 700,000, which means that only a bit more than 2% of the districtís population voted for her.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/impress...tes-1532444133
I must admit, itís weird not being on the same side as you Henna, but youíre not being fair here. No one cared about low voter turnout anytime Joe Crowley won. Nor did they make conclusions about his support in the district based on low voter turnout. Itís only because AOC is not a corporate democratic that weíre seeing these attempts to downplay her win and her support in her community.

Plus, we also have to look at the demographics of her district. A third of district 13 is ineligible to vote as they are under 18. Half the district is also foreign born. Exact numbers would be hard to come by, iím willing to bet that means a good portion of the over 18 population is ineligible to vote as they are not citizens. Using the whole population of district 14 is disingenuous. None of this means that 16,000 votes is a good voter turnout, but in a safe Democrat district, what matters is that she got more votes than a high-ranking Democrat like Crowley in the primary.
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Old Yesterday, 09:05 AM
 
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I must admit, itís weird not being on the same side as you Henna, but youíre not being fair here. No one cared about low voter turnout anytime Joe Crowley won. Nor did they make conclusions about his support in the district based on low voter turnout. Itís only because AOC is not a corporate democratic that weíre seeing these attempts to downplay her win and her support in her community.

Plus, we also have to look at the demographics of her district. A third of district 13 is ineligible to vote as they are under 18. Half the district is also foreign born. Exact numbers would be hard to come by, iím willing to bet that means a good portion of the over 18 population is ineligible to vote as they are not citizens. Using the whole population of district 14 is disingenuous. None of this means that 16,000 votes is a good voter turnout, but in a safe Democrat district, what matters is that she got more votes than a high-ranking Democrat like Crowley in the primary.
But the topic is how did AOC win (and not about Crowley), and you have people saying, "AOC won because the people in her district like her." It's simply just not accurate.

I'm a case in point. I don't like her, and I didn't vote. I wasn't paying attention.

If you're not on board with the 2% figure, then read the next article i posted from the NY Post which is more balanced with its presentation of the numbers.
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Old Yesterday, 09:14 AM
 
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Any time someone uses actual facts on this forum, they are either ignored, called fake news, branded as CNN-brainwashed, etc.

AOC won because her district likes her. These people hating on her are not from her district. She got her name out for people to vote for her. She got free publicity by winning the primary. Also, her district is almost 50% Latino, 11% black, and 16% Asian. They were represented by an old white man. He may have been one of the good ones, but when only 18% of the district is white, it's hard to say 57 year old white man could fully understand the needs of his extremely minority-heavy district. Again, I'm not saying he was out of touch, I'm just laying the facts here.

Then, you have a young, charismatic, educated Latina. For an under-served, minority-majority district that is almost 50% Latino, seeing the name "Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez" makes you feel like she's more one of you. Whether it's true or not, I guarantee her age and name assisted her greatly in a young, minority-heavy district.
A lot of AOC's campaigning was done by progressive whites. I know this because I saw them aggressively campaigning at the Jackson Heights farmer's market every Sunday.

Same with Caban's campaign. They showed up at my door a couple of times -- white people, not Hispanics.

I just don't think anyone can say with any accuracy who voted for AOC, unless you could see the age and race stats of those who actually voted for her.
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