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Old 07-30-2019, 10:22 AM
 
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NYC zoning laws is a big reason why big supermarkets don't open in a lot of neighborhoods. Of course rent $ is another, but a lot of that is driven by zoning laws anyway, making those kinds of spaces to be at a premium.
Most big floor area retailers and supermarkets can still open in areas with no rich liberal NIMBYs.

A funny thing on that map of under-served areas is that includes Todt Hill, Staten Island. One of the wealthiest neighborhoods in NYC. But it's a big area zoned for large 1-family homes only so it shows up as under-served by supermarkets.
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Old 07-30-2019, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Lower East Side, NYC
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I went to ShopRite in New Rochelle and thought it was pretty miserable compared to the Fairway in Stamford, CT and Trader Joes that opened in the Lower East Side. Those are probably the only 2 grocery stores I've ever actually enjoyed shopping at. I also still like Key Food sales, but with Trader Joes being closer and on average cheaper at better quality, I honestly can't complain. Whole Foods serves its purpose when it does, that's all I'll say about that. Other than that, because Fine Fare is close, sometimes I go there for stuff that wouldn't be at Trader Joes or Target, but I digress.

I don't get what's so special about ShopRite. We had Dominik's in Chicago too that everyone thought was special, and I never saw what was so great about it. My grocery bill is always less than $30 and I shop maybe once a week, so maybe I've never been the kind of shopper that ShopRite was made for.
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Old 07-30-2019, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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I went to ShopRite in New Rochelle and thought it was pretty miserable compared to the Fairway in Stamford, CT and Trader Joes that opened in the Lower East Side. Those are probably the only 2 grocery stores I've ever actually enjoyed shopping at. I also still like Key Food sales, but with Trader Joes being closer and on average cheaper at better quality, I honestly can't complain. Whole Foods serves its purpose when it does, that's all I'll say about that. Other than that, because Fine Fare is close, sometimes I go there for stuff that wouldn't be at Trader Joes or Target, but I digress.

I don't get what's so special about ShopRite. We had Dominik's in Chicago too that everyone thought was special, and I never saw what was so great about it. My grocery bill is always less than $30 and I shop maybe once a week, so maybe I've never been the kind of shopper that ShopRite was made for.
Big supermarkets like ShopRite cater to families. You won't notice much difference if you are buying individual food items as a single person, or that difference would be pretty negligible to you. Most of their savings are realized if you buy in bulk.
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Old 07-30-2019, 01:48 PM
 
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A funny thing on that map of under-served areas is that includes Todt Hill, Staten Island. One of the wealthiest neighborhoods in NYC. But it's a big area zoned for large 1-family homes only so it shows up as under-served by supermarkets.

There used to be a Waldbaum's on Manor Road in shopping center across from Todt Hill Houses (which aren't really in TH, but we're not on that right now). Waldbaum's closed/went bankrupt, then eventually a Superfresh moved into the space.

All this being said, as one keeps repeating SI was once rural/suburban and still mostly is that way. Just like in the burbs if you wanted to go supermarket shopping you got in your car and drove.

There was an A&P at Manor and Victory. Then further down on Forest Avenue you had two huge supermarkets across from each other. There was a Hill's on Richmond Avenue (where SI Mall is now), and so it goes.

Have been spoiled since moving into city. If I want or need something at 2AM can just walk down a few blocks to RiteAid or Duane Reade. On SI you have to get in your ride and drive to find something, especially late/over night when few things are open.

What SI had plenty of traditionally was local markets like Fazino's on Manor Road. They've since moved across the street and became A&C Superette: https://www.yelp.com/biz/a-and-c-sup...-staten-island
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Old Today, 07:02 AM
 
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Have been spoiled since moving into city. If I want or need something at 2AM can just walk down a few blocks to RiteAid or Duane Reade.


How are the pork chops at Duane Reade?
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Old Today, 06:29 PM
 
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Have been spoiled since moving into city. If I want or need something at 2AM can just walk down a few blocks to RiteAid or Duane Reade.


How are the pork chops at Duane Reade?
Are you getting smart with me?

You know what I meant.

Meats no, but RA and other convenience stores have dairy, cereal, coffee, paper products and pretty much anything one would need in a pinch.

Who the eff wakes up at 2AM looking for pork chops?
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Old Today, 08:05 PM
 
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I go to Trader Joe's once or twice a week, always by train. And it's always out of my way. But I think it's worth it. I don't live in a food desert but sometimes it feels like it due to the mediocre quality of the grocery stores.
I'm in Jackson Heights too. Do you go to the Trader Joes on Spring St in Manhattan? I'm right by Roosevelt and that's how I do my grocery shopping (E Train literally puts you door to door).
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