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Old 07-30-2019, 09:05 PM
 
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A big part of the reason for ASP is to keep car owners from leaving their cars in the same spot for days or weeks on end.
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Old 07-31-2019, 05:46 AM
 
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It surprises me when I see streets in dense neighborhoods that have no street cleaning. I just can't understand the rationale for not having it when every other place in densely settled areas does. Here's an example https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7577...7i16384!8i8192

Also it seems like street cleaning would be a bonus to residents nearby to eliminate the street hogging as mentioned above.
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Old 07-31-2019, 06:16 AM
 
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Let’s discuss. How come? I have not seen the benefits of a sweeper machine driving around the block once out of a 90 minute no parking regulation.

Just seems like another attack on the poor, working class. I won’t say middle class since many middle class areas do not have alternate side parking (Mill Basin, Marine Park, many areas in Queens/Staten Island etc).

Let’s discuss.

Alternate Side Parking (ASP) rules still don't exist in many outer areas of the outer boroughs. ASP was rolled out starting in the 1950s on the Lower East Side. The areas without ASP tend to be less dense areas with mostly 1 and 2 family homes, but not always. Staten Island does not have ASP at all except for on a handful of unusual narrow streets, like in New Dorp Beach, where the new wider DSNY trucks wouldn't otherwise fit.


ASP is more of a revenue scheme than anything else. Staten Island has the cleanest street ratings in the city without ASP. We sweep our own curbs.
https://data.cityofnewyork.us/City-G...2018/smbc-kugm
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Old 07-31-2019, 06:24 AM
 
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My neighborhood...and many others... already has 2 day only ASP. Some have 4 day, some have 2 day ,some have none. The decision re how many days is determined by a cleanlissness rating that the sanitation dept keeps . Also , it is possible to get the number of days reduced from 4 to 2 or from 2 to none. You have to ask your community board and if enough people request it and they think it might be sufficient they can ask the sanitation dept.

4 days ASP per week is excessive for residential blocks, and many outer borough blocks don't need ASP. More ASP = more ticket revenue. Don't bother with your community board, they are generally useless. Get your local Councilmember to make the requests to the DSNY and NYCDOT.
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Old 07-31-2019, 06:27 AM
 
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Lookup NYC parking regulations at this link:
Parking Regulations
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Old 07-31-2019, 06:53 AM
 
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I always thought of alternate side parking as one of the biggest money making scams in the city.This idea that street cleaners actually "clean" anything is ridiculous.
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Old 07-31-2019, 09:46 AM
 
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ASP is a scam just like the speeding cameras in school zones that that have them active from 6am to 10pm year round.

Many Bronx streets do not get cleaned because city workers abuse placards. Walk in a 2 block radius around the court houses at 161st during ASP and see home many of them are parked preventing street cleaning despite the many garages in the area that provide parking. None of these people live in the neighborhood and just prevents it from getting clean then turn around and talk trash about how filthy and smelly it is. Its hard to see a problem when you are the cause of it.

I remember years ago i parked my car legally in front of someones house out in Whitestone where there wasn't ASP because i spent the a holiday weekend there. No hydrant, no driveway, no church, no bus stop, no pedestrian walkway. Would you believe someone called the cops to have the car towed because it sat in the same spot for a 4 day weekend SMH.
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Old 07-31-2019, 10:27 AM
 
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I did the "sit on the other side for 90 mins" shuffle for 4 years when I had a car (I'd have one for 10 days every 3 months due to a weird family situation) and I never once actually saw the street sweeper truck come by. Normally I think that things like cleanliness, bike and ped safety, and things for the public good should come above cars, especially in a city where you can get anywhere on public transit & most drivers come from LI and Westchester and NJ, but ASP is bull**** and is just for revenue
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Old 07-31-2019, 10:28 AM
 
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Try living in a city that not only has no ASP but no city street cleaning at all (Philly). ASP in NYC is a fact of life and better than nothing.
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Old 07-31-2019, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Pelham Parkway,The Bronx
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Try living in a city that not only has no ASP but no city street cleaning at all (Philly). ASP in NYC is a fact of life and better than nothing.
I agree. And in my neighborhood at least the alt side parking coincides with trash removal so it makes for a much cleaner operation. Everything gets hauled away and cleaned up at once.They come through and pick up the trash and the sweepers come through soon after. And the sweepers usually go around twice each time. When they are finished the block is spotless....for a few hours anyway.
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