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Old Today, 09:21 AM
 
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Guess what, there are thousands of good people out there who would feel blessed to be a police officer in NYC, make six figures, with great benefits who will serve the better then that cop. Let him get fired. It will be better for involved, police officers, citizens, everyone.
I repped you on this one. Not for nothing I don't like people getting fired. The reason why pantenello should be fired is due to thr fact that his actions led to the death of Eric garner. Medical examiner said the compression to the neck killed Eric garner. Yes Eric garner had health complications that also aided in his death like asthma, heart disease and diabetes. Eric garner heart was twice as large as the average human being. Eric garner was a ticking time bomb. However pantenello is responsible and contributing to his death. Also pantenello actions

Further more. Pantenello lost the publics trust he lost the trust of the NYPD as well. Pantenello seems like a good person but his actions hurt the police department and his community that her serves. He should be terminated or step down in what is morally right.
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Old Today, 09:57 AM
 
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This is why we can never put hands on anyone again, not even a murderer. Even after acknowledging that Garner died due to his own actions and health, the above poster still wants Danny fired just because he found himself in a situation that doesn’t look good.

Protect and serve? Lol Protect the pension!
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Old Today, 10:11 AM
 
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This is why we can never put hands on anyone again, not even a murderer. Even after acknowledging that Garner died due to his own actions and health, the above poster still wants Danny fired just because he found himself in a situation that doesn’t look good.

Protect and serve? Lol Protect the pension!
I actually do not like people being fired. Mistakes happen on the job. I also don't like mob mentality that forces employers to fire individuals. Right now the NYPD is going through a tough process on whether or not to fire, or keep pantenello on the job. I also feel sorry for what pantenello is going through as well. He has a wife and he is going through it. If he is fired it will be difficult for him to get a job now due to his public figure now unless he changes his legal identity. And I say this as someone that is pro police.
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Old Today, 10:47 AM
 
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I actually do not like people being fired. Mistakes happen on the job. I also don't like mob mentality that forces employers to fire individuals. Right now the NYPD is going through a tough process on whether or not to fire, or keep pantenello on the job. I also feel sorry for what pantenello is going through as well. He has a wife and he is going through it. If he is fired it will be difficult for him to get a job now due to his public figure now unless he changes his legal identity. And I say this as someone that is pro police.
People lose their jobs everywhere every day. In my line of work, and in yours. Not pleasant but just because your a police officer does not mean it's your job for Life. Bad any profession get fired. And I am not anti police. My daughter is looking at being a NYPD officer and she has always been raised to treat officers with respect and courtesy. I have no problem seeing supporting our officers. But who benefits when a bad officer remains on the job ? At my job we have performance evaluations, work proficiency evaluations, and performance goals. If we are not profecient we get terminated.
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Old Today, 11:44 AM
 
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This is why we can never put hands on anyone again, not even a murderer. Even after acknowledging that Garner died due to his own actions and health, the above poster still wants Danny fired just because he found himself in a situation that doesn’t look good.

Protect and serve? Lol Protect the pension!
When you joined the policy force where you already burned out ? I just hope future policy psych exams can screen people out with your frame of mind. Not for nothing but that's how I feel. Police officers so cynical so obviously only concerned with what you get and not the good you can do undermines the profession.
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Old Today, 12:03 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Eric could’ve avoided the problem had he not resisted arrest, and Daniel could’ve avoided the problem had he not placed Eric under a chokehold. I don’t care if in Brazilian tsing Tao or whatever it’s not a chokehold - the medical examiner ruled that yes it was a chokehold.


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1SL12V
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Old Today, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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When you joined the policy force where you already burned out ? I just hope future policy psych exams can screen people out with your frame of mind. Not for nothing but that's how I feel. Police officers so cynical so obviously only concerned with what you get and not the good you can do undermines the profession.
From 2002-2014 I was never less than the 4th or 5th cop/supervisor by activity. Not a single month. I loved this job when we could do it.

No shot I do it now. I already protected myself by transferring to one of the slowest precincts where the vast majority of people support the police FOR REAL. But it’s still too risky.
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Old Today, 01:44 PM
 
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From 2002-2014 I was never less than the 4th or 5th cop/supervisor by activity. Not a single month. I loved this job when we could do it.

No shot I do it now. I already protected myself by transferring to one of the slowest precincts where the vast majority of people support the police FOR REAL. But it’s still too risky.
Even in the South Bronx where I was raised the majority of people support the cops, love the cops. What people don't like is bad cops. Cops who see the residents of the area as potential threats. Cops who patrol the project stairways with their guns ready to fire and shoot some one who happens to be there, then calls the union rep before they call the ambulance. Cops who tackle a professional tennis player in a hotel for no reason. Purge the bad cops and do it publicly and that will help engender greater support. Also the psych exams have to screen out cops who are afraid of the public, and whose tendencies are to engage violently. Screen for inherently insecure peoplee who use the badge to make themselves feel tough. I am done with the topic. Peace out.
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Old Today, 01:45 PM
 
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Eric couldíve avoided the problem had he not resisted arrest, and Daniel couldíve avoided the problem had he not placed Eric under a chokehold. I donít care if in Brazilian tsing Tao or whatever itís not a chokehold - the medical examiner ruled that yes it was a chokehold.


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1SL12V
He did resist arrest. That is true. He also pushed his hand away from officer and backed up. Another factor that led to Eric garner demise is that he has a nasty close to 40 arrest record. Thier was no way for Eric garner to escape poverty and to improve himself with all that criminal record. He also weighed in at 400 pounds. Poor health, poor criminal record background and poor policing led to this man's death.
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Old Today, 01:46 PM
 
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When you joined the policy force where you already burned out ? I just hope future policy psych exams can screen people out with your frame of mind. Not for nothing but that's how I feel. Police officers so cynical so obviously only concerned with what you get and not the good you can do undermines the profession.
Police work is very stressful. Cops also go through ptsd.
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