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Old 08-03-2019, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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They may suspect a crime being committed and use an excuse like a broken tail light to pull the car over and check for drugs. The court system would not accept a cop saying, “I suspected he was delivering drugs and so I pulled him over” but, “I pulled him over for a broken tail light and found out while checking his license that he was transporting drugs”.
I don’t know what you are getting at with this response.

In your previous post, you said that cops arrest based on reasonable suspicion. They do not. Cops arrest based on probable cause.
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Old 08-03-2019, 02:42 PM
 
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99% of strong men who workout at the gym would not die from a .22 caliber gunshot wound to the leg. Does that give anyone a right to shoot them with a .22 caliber gun to begin with?

The facts are:

1. The chokehold is illegal to use
2. Eric may have been selling loosies and deserved a fair booking/trial - as shortly before his death he outright denied he was selling cigarettes
3. Pantaloneo has a history of committing police brutality and should be fired.
True, people get shot all the time in NYC and don't end up adding to NYCs homicide stats.

Your forgetting 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8.

Once you get arrested a certain number of ridiculous times, nothing you do is considered petty. Nor are you considered trustworthy or reliable anymore. How many 911 calls need to be made on someone before they get taken down with a chokehold?
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Old 08-03-2019, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Confines of the 101 Precinct
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i still blame deblasio


if the cop was chinese, he would have been fired because deblasio hates asians


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...cing/83221906/
The definition of insanity is to keep doing something over and over and expect a different response

Stop blaming him for this

You give him too much credit

One man does not have that much power to influence. Definitely not him.
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Old 08-03-2019, 03:48 PM
 
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Eric was so obese that he would have died anyway. The police did kill him. The family got a nice payout. His family should enjoy the money. Like I said highly unlikely he would have lived to 70 at his weight.
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Old 08-03-2019, 04:19 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Eric was so obese that he would have died anyway. The police did kill him. The family got a nice payout. His family should enjoy the money. Like I said highly unlikely he would have lived to 70 at his weight.
The death certificate from the medical examiner ruled it as a homicide.
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Old 08-03-2019, 04:21 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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The definition of insanity is to keep doing something over and over and expect a different response

Stop blaming him for this

You give him too much credit

One man does not have that much power to influence. Definitely not him.
DeBlasio had the power to fire that cop.
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Old 08-03-2019, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Harlem, NY
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The NYPD likes to change the narrative with what exactly happened with events. Soon as sh** hits the fan, that they know is gonna strike a chord, and cause a backlash, suddenly a alternative version of the story that doesn’t make sense is force fed to the world. Not everything they say is a lie, but yes, they alter the truth.
Not only that but there’s way too many racially biased incidents happening under them. Case in point Eric Garner. They ignored their training in so many ways that it’s absolutely disgusting. they intentionally target the black/brown community. This is why stop question and frisk has been deactivated. This is why we have body cams. Are there some who want a financial come up from the NYPD? Yes. But they won’t see much, if anything at all
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Old 08-03-2019, 04:45 PM
 
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Of all the good people that have done good for the city and the city still did bad to them, much respect. A career criminal...not so much.
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Old 08-03-2019, 04:54 PM
 
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The NYPD likes to change the narrative with what exactly happened with events. Soon as sh** hits the fan, that they know is gonna strike a chord, and cause a backlash, suddenly a alternative version of the story that doesn’t make sense is force fed to the world. Not everything they say is a lie, but yes, they alter the truth.
Not only that but there’s way too many racially biased incidents happening under them. Case in point Eric Garner. They ignored their training in so many ways that it’s absolutely disgusting. they intentionally target the black/brown community. This is why stop question and frisk has been deactivated. This is why we have body cams. Are there some who want a financial come up from the NYPD? Yes. But they won’t see much, if anything at all
Body cams will become a high taxpayer expense. The cost of production, hosting and discovery of the records can easily be a billion a year in a litigious environment. But if it saves money for not having to provision for future settlements, then it could work.

How does the city target white communities if white communities don't exist?
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Old 08-03-2019, 05:05 PM
 
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DeBlasio had the power to fire that cop.



He sure the hell doesn't
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