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Old 09-02-2019, 06:44 AM
 
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Yeah man

Sutphin Blvd gets really crummy north of Linden Blvd. And stays crummy pretty much to Jamaica Avenue. It's not the best area.
I used to chill over on Baisley back in the day as some members of my crew lived down there. Never thought of it as that bad. Maybe the west side of the pond was always worse though.
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Old 09-02-2019, 07:53 AM
 
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So you dont want to count the shootings in the hood that happens every year since then?
Shootings in the hood often involve gang members, street level drug dealers, and certainly petty street criminals. They don’t represent everyone that lives in these areas.
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Old 09-02-2019, 07:56 AM
 
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Shootings in the hood often involve gang members, street level drug dealers, and certainly petty street criminals. They don’t represent everyone that lives in these areas.
There's no reason to explain anything to that poster, other than that they cannot afford to live somewhere more homogenous! Time to stop with the fake coddling on here.
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Old 09-02-2019, 08:50 AM
 
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There's no reason to explain anything to that poster, other than that they cannot afford to live somewhere more homogenous! Time to stop with the fake coddling on here.

Seventh, would you mind not using words that you heard somewhere, but you don't know what they mean? At least look it up in a dictionary. "Homogeneous" means uniform. and in case you don't know what uniform is either, it means evenly structured, blended. A marshmallow is homogeneous --- a trail mix of peanuts/raisins/chocolate chips/wallnuts/various dried fruit is heterogeneous.



Homogeneous does not mean wealthy, does not mean of white race, does not mean European. A homogeneous neighborhood is one where most people are very similar. A ghetto can be, and in fact usually is, quite homogeneous. People who are fighting to exclude "gentrifiers" are in fact fighting to preserve homogeneity of a neighborhood - if a different demographic starts moving into a neighborhood, that would make a neighborhood LESS homogeneous, not more.



High-crime neigborhoods in NYC are homogeneous enough: they are homogeneously low-income, and homogeneously brown/black.



The opposite of homogeneous is heterogeneous. The opposite of homogeneous is NOT Afroamerican/Latino low-income. A NYC neighborhood in which 90% of people make less than $60k per year is in fact VERY homogeneous. A NYC neighborhood in which 90% of people are Afroamerican and Latino is also VERY homogeneous. A neighborhood is homogeneous wherever you have a huge majority of people of the SAME KIND (and that can be any kind).


If you mean to tell people who are white or middle/higher income to stay out of HOMOGENEOUSLY non-white or low income neighborhoods, then please state that openly, don't hide behind "scholarly" words that you are using incorrectly.
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Old 09-02-2019, 08:53 AM
 
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Seventh, would you mind not using words that you heard somewhere, but you don't know what they mean? At least look it up in a dictionary. "Homogeneous" means uniform. and in case you don't know what uniform is either, it means evenly structured, blended. A marshmallow is homogeneous --- a trail mix of peanuts/raisins/chocolate chips/wallnuts/various dried fruit is heterogeneous.



Homogeneous does not mean wealthy, does not mean of white race, does not mean European. A homogeneous neighborhood is one where most people are very similar. A ghetto can be, and in fact usually is, quite homogeneous. People who are fighting to exclude "gentrifiers" are in fact fighting to preserve homogeneity of a neighborhood - if a different demographic starts moving in a neighborhood, that would make a neighborhood LESS homogeneous, not more.



High-crime neigborhoods in NYC are homogeneus enough: they are homogeneously low-income, and homogeneously brown/black.



The opposite of homogeneous is heterogeneous. The opposite of homogeneous is NOT Afroamerican/Latino low-income. A NYC neighborhood in which 90% of people make less than $60k per year is in fact VERY homogeneous. A NYC neighborhood in which 90% of people are Afroamerican and Latino is also VERY homogeneous. A neighborhood is homogeneous wherever you have a huge majority of people of the SAME KIND (and that can be any kind).


If you mean to tell people who are white or middle/higher income to stay out of HOMOGENEOUSLY non-white or low income neighborhoods, then please state that openly, don't hide behind "scholarly" words that you are using incorrectly.
This is coming from a woman who bought in the Bronx? And constantly asked questions about safety? I just dont get it.

Why do people move to cities, and don't want to accept the good and the bad that comes with them?

Well I know the answer to that - it's because that they're so money-hungry that they think they can overcome their prejudices, and clearly they cannot!

This has nothing to do with race at all. It has to do with culture. When you live in a city, you are living among many different cultures. Many of these posts are people refusing to understand why things are the way they are and prefer to live in a bubble within NYC. It's transplant behavior, plain and simple. Don't even respond to me until you've taken every train in the Bronx.
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Old 09-02-2019, 09:14 AM
 
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This is coming from a woman who bought in the Bronx? And constantly asked questions about safety? I just dont get it. Why do people move to cities, and don't want to accept the good and the bad that comes with them? This has nothing to do with race at all. It has to do with culture. When you live in a city, you are living among many different cultures. Many of these posts are people refusing to understand why things are the way they are and prefer to live in a bubble within NYC. Don't even respond to me until you've taken every train in the Bronx.

At this point we are just discussing the word "homogeneous". Please don't use it if you don't know what it means. Please use correct words.


I enjoy living among all cultures, with the exception of any culture that idolizes crime and violence. I strongly support complete disappearance of that kind of "culture" from any place in the world, not just from NYC. I escaped from that type of "culture" when it was prevalent in a certain area of Europe.


Oh, I have to also add that I do not support a culture of theft. Like, theft of money that pople have earned by hard work, theft of taxpayer money. That now gives me a bigger concern than crime in connection with Parkchester living (Parkchester, the Bronx is indeed low-crime... but high maintenance costs that trickle down from the City's tax scheme do affect even Parkchester).

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Old 09-02-2019, 11:49 AM
 
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This is not the culture of the vast majority of African Americans
Perhaps not, but it is much more prevalent in AA communities than others.
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Old 09-02-2019, 02:14 PM
 
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Perhaps not, but it is much more prevalent in AA communities than others.
Brooklyn, Bronx, Queens and NY in general has alot of crimes being commited by 1st and 2nd gen Caribbean's , but it's often Thrown into "African-American" crime statistics, There are hardly any African Americans who live in New York city, most have moved to the south or the suburbs

If this was the time of the mob, I would not say Whites are committing crimes, i would say Italians or Irish were doing crimes, For New York City to be so diverse, the New York City Data forum is a racist place
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Old 09-02-2019, 04:10 PM
 
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Perhaps not, but it is much more prevalent in AA communities than others.
And innocent African Americans are associated with the riffraff of the African American Community.
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Old 09-02-2019, 04:21 PM
 
Location: The State Of California
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Perhaps not, but it is much more prevalent in AA communities than others.
And innocent African Americans are associated with the riffraff of the African American Community.
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