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Definitely better in terms of safer than a decade ago, and definitely way more varied and better food options than a decade ago (want to make special mention of the sandwiches at Da Capo and the eats at Quechua Nostra Peruvian Food), but “safe” is really more about personal comfort and personal habits. For a good enough deal on housing, I’d have no issue living in the area bounded by Park, Lex, 103rd, and 105th as you’ve mentioned, but that’s me.
Lol thats 2 square blocks
What about the rest
Ahahahahahaha
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110th and below (and east of 3rd above that to about 116th) I would have no problems with either. Crime stats seem to bear out below 116th is much lower than above 116th, by more than half.
East harlem is a dump. There are plenty of cheaper and safer areas. East harlem probably has the worst quality of life issues in the city too. The litter, homeless, drug fiend issue stands out at all hours.
East harlem is a dump. There are plenty of cheaper and safer areas. East harlem probably has the worst quality of life issues in the city too. The litter, homeless, drug fiend issue stands out at all hours.
East Harlem is also fairly large as a neighborhood and very dense so different parts of it vary from one another. The OP was asking about a location close to its southern border. And while there's still the huge amount of housing projects as East Harlem has in general, that area also has a lot of dense, new construction and renovated townhomes and even the non-gentry demographics seemed to have shifted a bit with a lot more Mexicans and Chinese than there was before. I've never lived in East Harlem, but have friends I would visit and also did some projects in a museum there and at least that portion, if not more, is very different from a decade ago. Whether or not that's somewhere the OP will feel comfortable living in is a different issue though. It really will take actually visiting the area in different times of the day and walking around.
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It's never grown men beefing in that neighborhood. Always 12-18 year old black boys. I stay away from the children in east harlem as they are the most dangerous.
East harlem is a dump. There are plenty of cheaper and safer areas. East harlem probably has the worst quality of life issues in the city too. The litter, homeless, drug fiend issue stands out at all hours.
It's especially bad north of 116th, though there are blocks that are ok here and there. Even with the new buildings, there are still too many quality of life issues.
Those 2 square blocks were mentioned because that's as specific of an area as the OP stated. This isn't to say that those 2 square blocks are the only places in East Harlem that have changed a lot, because that's obviously not true, but as a specific reference point.
It's never grown men beefing in that neighborhood. Always 12-18 year old black boys. I stay away from the children in east harlem as they are the most dangerous.
I’ve also noticed they either don’t shoot to kill or are bad shots. There’s only been 3 homicides in East Harlem this year, but there have been over 30 shootings according to NYPD stats. Needless to say, if the problem is prevalent among the youth, good luck with the theory that East Harlem will be heaven in 3 years. In 3 years a lot of these 14-year-old shooters will be 17-year-old shooters.
They need to invest in more community spaces in East Harlem. The neighborhood cannot be policed more than it already is, yet it’s still bad.
Also, East River Houses on E 102 - 105 is arguably worse than even most areas north of 116. They’ve raided those projects at least twice and it’s still a hotbed for gangs (one of the three homicides this year happened there).
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