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Old 09-20-2019, 09:13 AM
 
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Uptown in Harlem, she throws a rose to some lucky young matador.
-Springsteen.


I guess it's official.
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Old 09-20-2019, 09:21 AM
 
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Default Is there a name for "Lower 2/3 of Manhattan"

No.
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Old 09-20-2019, 11:58 AM
 
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Harlem is uptown. The 50s is mid town ( some people even call time square downton)
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Old 09-20-2019, 04:41 PM
 
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No, there isn't a name for it, nor do we need one. We're usually pretty specific:
"My doctor's on the Upper East Side."
"I went to a play in the West Village last night."
"Do you have a favorite restaurant in the Theater District?"
"Did you know there's a new Trader Joe's in Murray Hill?
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Old 09-20-2019, 05:01 PM
 
Location: New York NY
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Coming up for a new name for the lower two-thirds of Manhattan in its entirety (separately from the upper one-third of the island) seems like it would just be reinventing the wheel.

There is absolutely nothing mystifying, misleading, or confusing about the neighborhood names uptown--Washington Heights, Inwood, Harlem, Hamilton Heights, Morningside Heights, Sugar Hill, and the rest--or the neighborhood names south, east, and west of Central Park, like Chinatown, Alphabet City, Chelsea, Turtle Bay, Lenox Hill, etc.

There are plenty of neighborhood names in Manhattan already and names do come and go. Sixty years ago people didn't speak of Battery Park City, Tribeca, Soho, Nolita, or Clinton. Even the East Village is a relatively new as neighborhood names go. And today how many people know where Bloomingdale or the Gashouse District or Five Points or San Juan Hill was? Not many.

Names changes when there is an organic need for them to change, and there just isn't a need that I can see to rename the lower two-thirds of the city.
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Old 09-20-2019, 05:38 PM
 
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Another thread started by someone who doesn't live here and has gone on far too long.

Yes, lower Manhattan as a name, and it is just that. Various areas have their own separate names (Soho, Tribeca, LES, West Village, East Village, etc....) but that's that.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower_Manhattan

Some long winded post from some guy in Chicago rhapsodizing about what New Yorkers should call an area of Manhattan is funny.
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Old 09-22-2019, 09:55 PM
 
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to me below 59th is downtown

then theres uws or ues

then harlem

thats it
Maybe if your from far uptown but mostly everybody calls below 59th midtown . 14th and lower is downtown
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Old 09-22-2019, 10:08 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Maybe if your from far uptown but mostly everybody calls below 59th midtown . 14th and lower is downtown
I semi disagree. I don’t consider anything “downtown” until we go below Canal. I agree with 59th to about 34th being mid town. I just call 14th Street to Canal The Village or SoHo depending where I am.
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Old 09-24-2019, 07:46 AM
 
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the problem is that people that do not live in nY or that live isolated while in ny do not understand how t works.

Sure at some point in history the Upper west side was "uptown" and Harlem was it own thing but that haven't been the case for the last 80 years or so. Harlem is uptown, the concept of up and down just follows the grid.

The imaginary line separating upper (Harlem) and lower Manhattan (the city) (W110th, E96st) had a historical reason but has never been truly a thing. you could argue that certain municipal policies did in fact made that line a tangible thing at some point:

The fact that almost all avenues change name after reaching Harlem (eg: 8 av becomes FDB Ect).
the Zoning laws for Harlem were very different that from below 110th st.
and just the simple fact that real state agents made a big deal about that separation, specially on the east side.

but the true is that upper west and upper east are just "the sides" while Harlem is uptown.

With the recent changes in zoning laws Harlem will start looking more like the rest of the island, high raises are being built and gentrification is on full swing.

The central business district on NYC is downtown, and central park has become a big separator from north to south. Thats why uptown seems to be less integrated to downtown that some parts of Brooklyn and even Hoboken. Nothing will change that.

future development of Harlem and its commercial corridor at 125th st and the development of the South Bronx Waterfront will make uptown to be more like downtown.

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Old 09-24-2019, 07:50 AM
 
Location: New York City
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tThe fact that almost all avenues change name after reaching Harlem (eg: 8 av becomes FDB Ect).
the Zoning laws for Harlem were very different that from below 110th st.
and just the simple fact that real state agents made a big deal about that separation, specially on the east side.
I find that super annoying. They should have renamed cross streets instead, or actually just given double names (like 6th ave is also Ave of the Americas). The avenue names should be the same from top to bottom
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