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View Poll Results: Would you be interested in the organization described above?"
I own a car or otherwise drive and would be interested 16 45.71%
I own a car or otherwise drive and would NOT be interested 15 42.86%
I don't own a car or otherwise driver and would be interested 4 11.43%
Voters: 35. You may not vote on this poll

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Old Yesterday, 01:42 PM
 
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Yeah, it seems like enough car owners are willing to bend over and take it from the car hating leftists that the trend will continue.
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Old Yesterday, 03:11 PM
 
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Yeah, it seems like enough car owners are willing to bend over and take it from the car hating leftists that the trend will continue.
Honestly what can they do? it's either adapt of leave, I chose to leave. Things aren't going to get better for drivers in NYC, only worse.
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Old Yesterday, 04:43 PM
 
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The premise here is that there are enough of us (maybe 2,000,000 in the city alone) that if we got political and militant, we could change the political equation. But that would take a high percentage of car owners willing to be (75-80%.) Of the ones who voted here, and I doubt all the car owners who saw this thread voted, is seems like barely more than half would. I don't think that would be enough.

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Honestly what can they do? it's either adapt of leave, I chose to leave. Things aren't going to get better for drivers in NYC, only worse.
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Old Yesterday, 05:01 PM
 
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The premise here is that there are enough of us (maybe 2,000,000 in the city alone) that if we got political and militant, we could change the political equation. But that would take a high percentage of car owners willing to be (75-80%.) Of the ones who voted here, and I doubt all the car owners who saw this thread voted, is seems like barely more than half would. I don't think that would be enough.
Depends on what the goal of the organization be ? You lobby for better roads, lower costs for inspections, licenses, registrations, and tolls is fine. But you going to advocate for higher speed limits, less bike lanes stuff that means not sharing the road or hurting pedestrian and cyclists rights, it's not going to work.
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Old Yesterday, 05:11 PM
 
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Depends on what the goal of the organization be ? You lobby for better roads, lower costs for inspections, licenses, registrations, and tolls is fine. But you going to advocate for higher speed limits, less bike lanes stuff that means not sharing the road or hurting pedestrian and cyclists rights, it's not going to work.
Agreed. That's one of the reasons why I left.
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Old Yesterday, 05:28 PM
 
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Agreed. That's one of the reasons why I left.
Eventually the speed cameras are going to be extended to most towns, villages, and highways. Eventually all towns will make room for cyclists. It's inevitable and it's good. It's good one more bike means one less car. Speeds will come down, unless one day we will have a computerized grid system which communicates with each car s computer and directs traffic and routes cars to reduce traffic congestion. In a few years as traffic cameras prices drop for areas they will draw revenue for every infraction you commit. Even where you moved to.
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Old Yesterday, 05:35 PM
 
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Agreed. That's one of the reasons why I left.
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Yeah, it seems like enough car owners are willing to bend over and take it from the car hating leftists that the trend will continue.
Why is being a cyclist a leftist thing. I used to commute daily to work for years, and I was a listening to Hannity on the way home on my headphones. My cousin is a libertarian and he is a cyclist. I thought being a cyclist would appeal to people on the right as it's independent, brave, healthy, and very cost effective. If I had continued to bike as I did maybe I would have not become a T2 diabetic. I developed it a year after commuting as regularly and gaining weight. Bikes are not a threat. Now, did the City Bike program done wrong, absolutely. But the premise to make the City Bike friendly is long overdue. Every bike, is one less car on the road.
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Old Yesterday, 05:49 PM
 
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There's more cars in NYC today then ever, and virtually none of the cyclists would be driving a car anyway. They would just walk or take public transportation. I support making streets safer for pedestrians, but not cyclists.
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Old Yesterday, 06:05 PM
 
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There's more cars in NYC today then ever, and virtually none of the cyclists would be driving a car anyway. They would just walk or take public transportation. I support making streets safer for pedestrians, but not cyclists.
I bike one day a week to work, weather permitting. If I do, that's my car off the road. If my cousin could not ride he would buy a car, because he hates people and would not want to be on the bus or train. Cycles are good. But the City has to fine irresponsible cyclists. Fine them for not using helmets.

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Old Yesterday, 06:28 PM
 
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There's more cars in NYC today then ever, and virtually none of the cyclists would be driving a car anyway. They would just walk or take public transportation. I support making streets safer for pedestrians, but not cyclists.
People have too many cars. Why does a family need more then two cara or even one car anyway ? In NYC.
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