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Old Yesterday, 12:38 PM
 
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So many urban cities like Newark, Detroit, and Camden have lost their ethnic white populations after the 60s.

However in Brooklyn the white ethnic groups like the Italians, Jews, and Poles have stayed there longer.

Iíve always wondered why that is.
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Old Yesterday, 12:59 PM
 
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Big 3 family,the mob,we ain't running, we staying and keeping ours...
Look ,Irish mob,Italian mob,Russian mob, immigrants connected, and they still keep coming. Brooklyn is not the only borough like this.

A more interesting part of this is that a Hispanic or Asian border usually separates the blacks from the whites.
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Old Yesterday, 01:05 PM
 
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Big 3 family,the mob,we ain't running, we staying and keeping ours...
Look ,Irish mob,Italian mob,Russian mob, immigrants connected, and they still keep coming. Brooklyn is not the only borough like this.

A more interesting part of this is that a Hispanic or Asian border usually separates the blacks from the whites.
Not really, it is usually the Hasidic Jews that form a barrier to black neighborhoods. Like Midwood, Flatlands. There is a white/black border in Mill Basin and Bergen Beach, also in Prospect Heights.
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Old Yesterday, 03:34 PM
 
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Most of them are gone too, the neo "ethnic white" population in Brooklyn is dominated by Eastern Europeans, both Jewish and Gentile
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Old Yesterday, 03:35 PM
 
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Not really, it is usually the Hasidic Jews that form a barrier to black neighborhoods. Like Midwood, Flatlands. There is a white/black border in Mill Basin and Bergen Beach, also in Prospect Heights.
Hassidic Jews stay anywhere, even in the middle of black neighborhoods
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Old Yesterday, 03:40 PM
 
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Most of them are gone too, the neo "ethnic white" population in Brooklyn is dominated by Eastern Europeans, both Jewish and Gentile
Mill Basin and Bergen Beach are still somewhat "old school" ethnic white areas. Still a decent amount of Italians left because it's expensive, especially Mill Basin, and it's suburban enough, so the houses are usually big enough.
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Old Yesterday, 05:20 PM
 
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Where the white men at?
Seriously what white people.
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Old Yesterday, 05:37 PM
 
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Big 3 family,the mob,we ain't running, we staying and keeping ours...
Look ,Irish mob,Italian mob,Russian mob, immigrants connected, and they still keep coming. Brooklyn is not the only borough like this.

A more interesting part of this is that a Hispanic or Asian border usually separates the blacks from the whites.
Interesting the mob might have something to do with this..

I heard the same about Newark. Although Iím unsure if thatís true or not.
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Old Yesterday, 05:57 PM
 
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So many urban cities like Newark, Detroit, and Camden have lost their ethnic white populations after the 60s.

However in Brooklyn the white ethnic groups like the Italians, Jews, and Poles have stayed there longer.

Iíve always wondered why that is.
Simple; in areas where people will not sell to "outsiders" they cannot gain a foothold. This prevents an area from tipping then wholesale white flight leading to a place becoming a broke/busted hood.

Canarsie, large parts of North, West and now East shores of SI, Bayridge, Bensonhurst, Ridgewood and so forth all were largely white ethnic working to middle class white areas. They remained this way long as homes were only sold to people same as what was living there already. But soon as chinks in that armor began ears perked up. When things went from one or two blacks, Asians, Latino/Hispanics to several it becomes as if people heard Hitler invaded Poland. They cannot pack up and move fast enough; this leads to "busting" an neighborhood something real estate professionals then and now are very good at doing.

Have said this before; can take you to areas on North Shore of SI from Saint George going west past New Brighton, West Brighton, Port Richmond, Elm Park, Mariners Harbor and even Arlington that once were solid working/middle class white late as the 1980's. But by 1990's and certainly into 2000's they became busted minority hoods.

Whites packed up and moved to South Shore, New Jersey or whatever. Yes, some old timers remained in their homes, but when they go the kids won't be moving back, so property is sold to anyone that meets their number. You're seeing this now even on South Shore; people just don't give an eff about the area anymore by and large; they just want to sell (at the inflated price they believe property is worth) and get out of Dodge. If that means to people like Savo Brothers, or maybe minorities, so be it.

You also have to remember up until say 1980's Brooklyn like parts of Manhattan, Staten Island, and Queens maintained a decent if not large amount of industrial, docks, and other "working class" jobs that also kept such ethnic whites in in their areas.

People forget (or don't know) how much of Brooklyn waterfront and some surrounding areas were once heavily industrial/manufacturing. Those jobs are what helped build up the communities inland, especially "south Brooklyn" or what real estate pros call "Park Slope South".
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Old Yesterday, 06:01 PM
 
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Fiction based upon facts:

This sort of thing was going on all throughout 1970's and 1980's in many "ethnic" white areas of the city.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByV2yUtmuHc

Eventually the "Archie Bunkers" either gave up, moved, or just died.
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