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Old Yesterday, 06:13 AM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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Old Yesterday, 06:14 AM
 
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What were the crimes Garner committed before ?
3. Garner, 43, had history of more than 30 arrests dating back to 1980, on charges including assault and grand larceny.

4. At the time of his death, Garner was out on bail after being charged with illegally selling cigarettes, driving without a license, marijuana possession and false impersonation.


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Old Yesterday, 07:29 AM
 
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Mr RYU that video of the kid confronted by the officer, some thing similar happened to me when I was 13 or 1 4 while walking home alone from school. I lived in the Fordham Tremont area and was a what ever the cop felt the area produced. He treated me as a criminal to be mistreated because I lived in the crap neighborhood. This is I guess behind my argument about the perception we hold about a community. I respect cops but know some of them, like everybody else, there are good and bad. I don't slander all cops for the actions of bad cops.
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Old Yesterday, 07:33 AM
 
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Screw dat fat loosy cig selling criminal
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Old Yesterday, 07:44 AM
 
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Mr RYU that video of the kid confronted by the officer, some thing similar happened to me when I was 13 or 1 4 while walking home alone from school. I lived in the Fordham Tremont area and was a what ever the cop felt the area produced. He treated me as a criminal to be mistreated because I lived in the crap neighborhood. This is I guess behind my argument about the perception we hold about a community. I respect cops but know some of them, like everybody else, there are good and bad. I don't slander all cops for the actions of bad cops.
Did you call him papi too?

Sadly, patrolling a bad area requires a cop to always keep his/her guard up and be on high alert.
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Old Yesterday, 08:07 AM
 
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I swear with some of you people its like beating a dead horse.

Ive said it before and ill say it again. Arrests mean nothing!!! You can be arrested for anything because a cop feels like arresting you. Remember the BS days when cops were arresting people for just hanging around or giving summons for just sitting on a milk crate.

Come back to the table when you can say he was charged or convicted.
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Old Yesterday, 08:35 AM
 
Location: New York City
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I'm a 40 year old straight white cis woman..
come on now!

you're not really going to start going through life qualifying your normal gender with cis are you??

male / female / other, it doesn't need to be any more complicated than that (even with so many snowflakes looking for acceptance and normalization of their new fangled orientation)
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Old Yesterday, 07:22 PM
 
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Because we WATCHED it work.

The theory is that by allowing small crimes to happen it creates a lawless atmosphere that emboldens low level criminals to try bigger crimes. But if they do something minor, and get slapped down for it, they don't step up.

It also gets low level criminals on the LE radar. This became more important as technology got better. Around the same time as Giuliani and Bratton were reforming LE in NYC, things like computerized fingerprint databases were starting to become prevalent. Early in the broken windows era there was a murder. Very random, no witnesses IIRC, but they did get fingerprints. They were able match the fingerprints to someone who had be arrested and run through the system for turnstile jumping not long before. Since he was in the database, it was a quick, easy arrest. Now with DNA and ubiquitous CCTV surveillance combined with facial recognition, it's even more important to have the criminal class in the database.

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I don't understand why people are so convinced that the "Broken Windows" theory actually worked. How does ticketing people for drinking/smoking in the street and hopping turnstiles lead to less violent crime? How does ticketing for turnstile hopping prevent future rapists, arsonists, burglarists, drug dealers and murderers?

All Broken Windows theory does is catch the idiots who were already doing idiotic stuff to begin with. When they get jammed up its because they had priors. So Broken Windows does not prevent people from becoming new criminals. Smh.
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Old Yesterday, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Confines of the 101 Precinct
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Because we WATCHED it work.

The theory is that by allowing small crimes to happen it creates a lawless atmosphere that emboldens low level criminals to try bigger crimes. But if they do something minor, and get slapped down for it, they don't step up.

It also gets low level criminals on the LE radar. This became more important as technology got better. Around the same time as Giuliani and Bratton were reforming LE in NYC, things like computerized fingerprint databases were starting to become prevalent. Early in the broken windows era there was a murder. Very random, no witnesses IIRC, but they did get fingerprints. They were able match the fingerprints to someone who had be arrested and run through the system for turnstile jumping not long before. Since he was in the database, it was a quick, easy arrest. Now with DNA and ubiquitous CCTV surveillance combined with facial recognition, it's even more important to have the criminal class in the database.
Broken Windows is just another way to profile people
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Old Yesterday, 07:28 PM
 
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come on now!

you're not really going to start going through life qualifying your normal gender with cis are you??

male / female / other, it doesn't need to be any more complicated than that (even with so many snowflakes looking for acceptance and normalization of their new fangled orientation)
I don't normally. But I felt it was relevant to be fully descriptive of my demographics with regards to the topic.
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