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Old 10-04-2019, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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thats not what the census data points, the city is getting white.

Since 2000, the proportion of non-Hispanic white New Yorkers increased slightly, to 35.5 percent. So did New York City’s proportion of Hispanic residents, to just over 27 percent. The proportion of blacks declined by a percentage point, to 23.3 percent, and the share of Asian residents rose by almost two percentage points, to nearly 12 percent.

i dont see that white depopulation you are talking about, neither does the census.
Recent census shows NYC at 31.7% NH white. In 2000 it was 34.8% and 2010 it was 33.3%.

In Queens, the only areas that saw an increase in the white population was Astoria, LIC, Sunnyside, and Ridgewood. Pretty much everywhere else saw declines, in some cases by significant drops. I think Ozone Park, Woodhaven, Richmond Hill, and College Point saw the biggest declines.

The only boroughs that are seeing an increase are Brooklyn and Manhattan.
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Old 10-04-2019, 11:25 AM
 
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Recent census shows NYC at 31.7% NH white. In 2000 it was 34.8% and 2010 it was 33.3%.

In Queens, the only areas that saw an increase in the white population was Astoria, LIC, Sunnyside, and Ridgewood. Pretty much everywhere else saw declines, in some cases by significant drops. I think Ozone Park, Woodhaven, Richmond Hill, and College Point saw the biggest declines.

The only boroughs that are seeing an increase are Brooklyn and Manhattan.
Exactly. SW Queens used to be known for being pretty white and now its white population is small.
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Old 10-04-2019, 12:47 PM
 
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If anything, there's MORE whites in the city now than 5 years ago. Mostly young people.

Those old school blue collar whites all left at least 25 years ago in 90% of the city.
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Old 10-04-2019, 01:12 PM
 
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Recent census shows NYC at 31.7% NH white. In 2000 it was 34.8% and 2010 it was 33.3%.

In Queens, the only areas that saw an increase in the white population was Astoria, LIC, Sunnyside, and Ridgewood. Pretty much everywhere else saw declines, in some cases by significant drops. I think Ozone Park, Woodhaven, Richmond Hill, and College Point saw the biggest declines.

The only boroughs that are seeing an increase are Brooklyn and Manhattan.
Those are areas with high population density (LIC, Sunnyside, and Ridgewood). those far ways queens hoods that you talk about have lower density. White peple percentages are increasing, white people are just moving closer to the city center. white percentages are Increasing in lower Manhattan, northern Brooklyn, western queens and Harlem. Is a very simple dynamic.

You talk about gentrification as if only 2-3 hoods were gentrifying, the whole city is gentrifying. The whole island of Manhattan is under heavy gentrification pressure, the south Bronx, western queens, Northern Brooklyn. What is left after that? those far away hoods in deep Queens that you yearn about. Those will be taken by Asians soon, dont worry.
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Old 10-04-2019, 02:06 PM
 
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If anything, there's MORE whites in the city now than 5 years ago. Mostly young people.

Those old school blue collar whites all left at least 25 years ago in 90% of the city.
For every neighborhood with increasing whites, there is another one with decreasing. Think of all the formerly white neighborhoods that are becoming Chinatowns, Little Guyanas, etc
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Old Yesterday, 03:44 PM
 
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If anything, there's MORE whites in the city now than 5 years ago. Mostly young people.

Those old school blue collar whites all left at least 25 years ago in 90% of the city.



Uh most of these young hipster whites either have huge trust funds or partially if not fully supported by mommy and daddy - - I mean honestly what percentage of these hipsters that you see really are making in the six figures (outside of areas like the upper east and west sides and Brooklyn heights). Besides most are transient anyway and stay in NYC for just a few years until either they can no longer afford it or it is too stressful compared to the places in the Midwest or Southwest they are from originally)
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Old Today, 12:16 PM
 
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thats not what the census data points, the city is getting white.

Since 2000, the proportion of non-Hispanic white New Yorkers increased slightly, to 35.5 percent. So did New York City’s proportion of Hispanic residents, to just over 27 percent. The proportion of blacks declined by a percentage point, to 23.3 percent, and the share of Asian residents rose by almost two percentage points, to nearly 12 percent.

i dont see that white depopulation you are talking about, neither does the census.
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You are only looking at a small portion of time. The white population increased in Manhattan as a result of gentrification
unlike the outer boroughs. If you want to see the entire curve you must lengthen the time period to a generation or more.

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In this way, we can divine some of the fortunes of different corners of the country simply by watching how Americans move around over the years. Each year, about 10 million Americans relocate to a new county. Map all those moves from one Census to another, across decades, and by race and age demographics, and you can see the Great Migration of blacks from the South, white flight to northern suburbs, the hollowing out of Rust Belt cities and the rise of the Sun Belt.
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Old Today, 01:46 PM
 
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I just don't trust it because Richard Carranza seems like the type to guilt people for being white
I donít think anyone has to feel guilty about being white.

But anyways they should have diversity training without shaming anyone.
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Old Today, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Bronx, New York
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You know, the old-school white middle class NYCers from southern Brooklyn, Staten Island, Bensonhurst, Morris Park, etc.

Why are they leaving the city in droves for LI, upstate NY, NJ, PA, NC, AZ?

The Koch-Giuliani-Bloomberg coalition of middle class whites.

Why are some of their children and grandchildren staying in the city?
There are plenty of studies on the phenomena known as "ethnic succession."
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Old Today, 03:27 PM
 
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Whole lot of pages over a very simple phenomenon.

Across the country from Maine to California whites of all socio-economic classes have been having less children for decades. This includes the once highly reproductive Irish, Italian, German, Polish and others of European (usually Catholic) descent that historically had large families.

If that wasn't enough thanks to Ted Kennedy's immigration laws door was pretty much slammed shut against white/Europeans. But opened to Asians, Africans, Latin Americans, Filipinos, and other minorities. Piled onto this NYC is a sanctuary state allowing (if not encouraging) all sorts of illegals to arrive, and set up shop. Asians, Dominicans, and other Latino-Hispanics.....

Thus it comes down to a numbers game. Baby boomers and their parents generations are retiring if not dying off. When it comes time to sell their homes there aren't enough whites who want to live in certain areas, and or otherwise can't be bothered. So things change.

The whites who are taking back certain formerly working class areas of Brooklyn and Queens are largely displacing minorities, and in any case usually are transplants from a higher socio-economic background than the whites who lived in these areas generations ago.

Many white "working class" persons pack up and move because they can, and after crunching the numbers realize they are better off elsewhere. OTOH many minority and some others receive a sweet deal in terms of various bennies by remaining in city, so they do.

Woodlawn and across the border in Yonkers still has a pretty high percentage of "workign class" Irish, but their former areas such as Inwood, west side of Manhattan, and even SI not so much.
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