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Old 10-05-2019, 08:44 PM
 
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OP wouldn't have complained if she hadn't given him attitude about something that isn't his fault.

If we could all play the genetics card so hard it wouldn't explain the rapid rise in weight gain over the last thirty years. People have no idea how many calories they consume and how little exercise they do.

Did you ever watch the British show Supersize vs. Superskinny? They have an overweight person swap diets with an underweight/slender person. Their diets aren't even close in caloric intake.

I have lost weight before when I was a pound away from being overweight---as an adult---and lost so much weight once I gave a crap that I went the other way and was practically underweight. But I literally counted every calorie that went in my mouth for a year and a half to lose weight and then another year and a half to maintain. As soon as I stopped paying attention (since I don't work out ever and I didn't to lose weight either), I put a few pounds back on---but I am much better about watching what I eat now (since I am so aware of the calories) I have always kept off at least a certain amount of what I initially lost. (30+ pounds have always remained off.)



But HEY according to you since both of my parents are obese (my dad is probably considered morbidly obese) I'm going to be obese as well so why try! My husband is overweight (technically obese) as well so I guess my future kid will be screwed too.
Truth!

And it is hard to watch what you eat nowadays because of portions, high calorie (low nutrition) junk food, ever present fast food options, etc. But if you do watch what you eat, keeping your calorie intake within range of whatís age/gender/height appropriate, you will not become overweight. The problem is the vast majority of people have no idea how many calories are appropriate and become accustomed to eating too many calories. Also, keep in mind one doesnít have to over eat to consume too many calories...that side of fries, that large soda, that bag of chips, that cookie, etc are what creeps up.

Iím not a ďhealth nutĒ but I donít have the fastest metabolism so I have to be careful. When I stop paying attention and let too many weeks slip with poor food choices and not enough exercise, the pounds will creep up. It happened last year. I put on 5 lbs (stressful year, etc) but when I realized it, I tightened the diet and stopped being lazy about the gym.
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Old 10-05-2019, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Gods country
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I avoid the subway like the plague when Iím in NYC.
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Old 10-06-2019, 04:19 AM
 
Location: NY
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As much as I hate...... I cut sugar out of my diet a few months back and dropped 20 lbs.
I cut out sodas,and sugar filled snacks. No longer put sugar in my coffee. I drink more
water and do not use any sugar substitute. That is dangerous requiring no explanation.
Your body utilizes and processes foods differently when younger. You must change along
with your age and monitor the process as you move forward including changing what you eat.
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Old 10-06-2019, 09:11 AM
 
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Opinion:
As much as I hate...... I cut sugar out of my diet a few months back and dropped 20 lbs.
I cut out sodas,and sugar filled snacks. No longer put sugar in my coffee. I drink more
water and do not use any sugar substitute. That is dangerous requiring no explanation.
Your body utilizes and processes foods differently when younger. You must change along
with your age and monitor the process as you move forward including changing what you eat.
Exactly. Everything changes as we age and we canít do the same things we did when younger. Diet isnít any different. People will adjust activity because of age related aches and pains, drink less because they canít handle liquor like the use to, but donít bother to adjust diets and then wonder why they gain weight.
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Old 10-06-2019, 11:22 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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May the universe bless you all with perfect genetics so that none of you is overweight ever.

In defined seats, it definitely is offensive when someone taking up more than a seat has an attitude when you want to sit down. However, if they don't give you an attitude, treating them like they are some sort of leper is simply wrong.

I don't like the word obesity because being overweight and being obese are two different things. However it is the term used in discussions. Obesity, is one of the last prejudices out there, where it's OK to be derogatory, and treat people like its a personal failing on their part. The reality is; with most overweight people I know, they EAT better than most skinny people. Many of them also work out longer and harder than most skinny people. While there can be some health effects with excessive weight, often larger people are as healthy, or more healthy than a skinny person. What is not factored is DNA, age and gender.

Do you know most scientific research on fitness and nutrition is based on some overweight guy in their 30's trying to lose weight before a surgery? The other studies are based on male athletes in their 20s. So what does that mean. It's based on a very specific target; it's based on a short testing period; it's based on the male gender. It's based on youthful bodies. None of it has any accountability for other people not in those target groups, yet all the advice is supposed to be universally applicable to all.

Women in contrast are not just small versions of men. They have something called a menstrual cycle which regulates many hormones, not just the sex hormones. Their hormones fluctuate not only day day to day, but over time and decades. These hormones effect everything about their systems; their brain, their bodies, their moods. So why would things that work on 20 year old male athletes be effective on a 40 year old woman? Men have some of this issue as well, it is just not in the extreme.

So the reality about both fitness and nutrition is that most of it is junk science, limited data and outright snake oil. So the idea, that its some sort of personal failing is just a way to dump on people. And will-power is subjective. If a person who has had will-power for lengthy periods of time and saw no results, or diminishing results, is it really a personal failing that they finally say, "enough." No one keeps at something that is not proven successful. That would be masochism. There is a reason people are shaped the same way as their parents: DNA. You can fight it, and maybe win the battle for years, decades, but eventually, it does catch up.

For the record, I think I am overweight, because I don't look like I did when I was 30. I have also been on a diet for 35 years. Talk about will-power. Most people tell me that I look great. I disagree. That is a subject of another topic; cultural brainwashing.

https://www.1843magazine.com/feature...of-the-calorie

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...7a3_story.html

https://highline.huffingtonpost.com/...sity-is-wrong/

https://qz.com/550527/obesity-parado...r-your-health/
Here we go... Give us a break with the genetic crappola. Most obese people are obese because they stuff their faces more than anything else. They just try to do so in private because they are embarrassed.
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Old Yesterday, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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Not so bad in the Summer but the subway seating dilemma gets severe in Winter when everyone is wearing a parka and has suddenly grown to twice his size.
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Old Yesterday, 07:27 AM
 
Location: New York
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On the 4/5/6 express I live for that standing corner spot by the opposite doors that don't open. No encroachment from the rear, it's like a personal bubble for all 15-20 minutes I have to endure the peak hour subway experience.

Also this complaint is by no means specific to the subway, if you've ever ridden Metro North and been crushed into a middle seat between two passengers who are determined to use up all possible space for themselves and luggage you'll understand.
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Old Yesterday, 07:30 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Winter is good though. Less smells and less accidental touching of other people's bare skin.
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Old Yesterday, 07:54 AM
 
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Just stand. I am a stander. People who want to smell fresh, we stand.

This.





Also what's up with the people who don't slide over when the subway starts emptying out? I see so may people continue to sit right on top of each other. Gross.
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Old Yesterday, 08:26 AM
 
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There are a lot of fatties on the subway. I once sat next to one the N train from Bklyn to Manhattan in the late afternoon. The train was not packed at all. I happened to be sitting at the seat next to a diagonal pole while another passenger took the seat closest to the door. Two women with massive bottoms happened to be sitting at the seats next to me on the other side of the pole, which should be used as a divider. As the ride was progressing I noticed that the woman's butt that was sitting next to me started inching closer to me and made it's way well passed the pole and onto my area. It was at least 5 inches onto my side and I had to keep moving over as her big butt kept on encroaching onto my side. She and the other woman were oblivious to this. I'm sure there are many of desperate fellas that like to go hoggin but that's not my thing. I did not take to kindly to them.
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