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Old Yesterday, 09:03 AM
 
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Winter is good though. Less smells and less accidental touching of other people's bare skin.
That creeps me out to no end. Thankfully my ride is short now 20 - 25 minutes that I don't even entertain the thought of sitting down.
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Old Yesterday, 09:13 AM
 
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Did they appear ghetto? Why even bother sitting next to them? It's pretty much your own fault tbh. If you have to "squeeze" in its already a problem. Not worth it on a subway considering what can happen on a train full of random strangers.
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Old Yesterday, 09:45 AM
 
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I say genetics can and do play a role. But diet is also a huge issue. The genetic profile of the populace didn't change overnight over the last however many decades. Yet, we are a much fatter society today than we were, say, in the 1950s. Hell, we've seen a 33% jump in the adult obesity rate in the last 20 years alone from 30.5% to 39.6%: https://www.stateofobesity.org/obesi...ends-overview/

From 1960-1999, the obesity rate for adults aged 20-74 increased by well over 100%: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hus/hus02cht.pdf (see chart on page 38).

So, yes, I think the genetics argument is overplayed, especially when I see how larger the portion sizes people (including people with weight problems) are eating today vs. decades ago. And decreasing rates of physical activity also play a role (this is discussed in the CDC link I posted).

I'll treat people who are obese or overweight with the same respect that I'll treat anyone else. But just like I wouldn't allow a relative fit person to intrude in my personal space, I won't let an overweight or obese person intrude in my personal space.

I really don't think obesity is genetically related. I think people use that as an excuse.

But I do believe that eating the modified junk food of today, (corn, soy, wheat, etc) is what makes people fat. Also, never *ever* eat proteins mixed with carbs or that'll blow you up. (Bread with meat or bread with cheese are examples). Leave the soda and anything with fructose. Once someone does this, they will have normal weight. You don't even have to go to the gym.
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Old Yesterday, 10:37 AM
 
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If you are skinny and healthy just stand. If you can't stand for 10 minutes maybe it's time to get your ass into the gym and get to exercising more. The subway seats are gross anyways. I'd rather keep my clothes smelling fresh and clean.
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Old Yesterday, 10:50 AM
 
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I really don't think obesity is genetically related. I think people use that as an excuse.

But I do believe that eating the modified junk food of today, (corn, soy, wheat, etc) is what makes people fat. Also, never *ever* eat proteins mixed with carbs or that'll blow you up. (Bread with meat or bread with cheese are examples). Leave the soda and anything with fructose. Once someone does this, they will have normal weight. You don't even have to go to the gym.
You must not eat out a lot. I'm picky like that too but clean diets are not an easy match for NYC life, on a budget at least like eating out places gets difficult. Almost everything good tasting looks and smells like impulse buys and is loaded with carbs and improper food combinations.

Mexico is reported to have more obesity than the USA and it is because of the foods you outlined.
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Old Yesterday, 11:02 AM
 
Location: New York City
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I've seen plenty of big people hog the bench but I've never heard anyone complain when someone else tries to sit
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Old Yesterday, 11:05 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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You must not eat out a lot. I'm picky like that too but clean diets are not an easy match for NYC life, on a budget at least like eating out places gets difficult. Almost everything good tasting looks and smells like impulse buys and is loaded with carbs and improper food combinations.

Mexico is reported to have more obesity than the USA and it is because of the foods you outlined.
I eat out a lot but generally avoid certain things and stick with organic places. Drinks are usually water. Any sort of organic teas are a treat, and I do a Gus soda a few times a year tops since that doesn't have all of the garbage that traditional soda has. Otherwise it is flavored sparkling water or still water.
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Old Yesterday, 12:09 PM
 
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I eat a pretty damn healthy diet - cook most of my meals - do not drink sugary drinks - and I'm a marathon swimmer. And I carry an extra 35 lbs or so that I'd love to lose but I'm also a middle aged woman with a not terribly thin family.

Not only is the ignorance high in this thread, but the offensiveness is pretty up there too.

(And yeah, my ass fits perfectly fine in a subway seat and yeah, I'm uncomfortable too when someone else's ass creeps into my seat. But I can say the same about all you manspreaders.)
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Old Yesterday, 12:42 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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You must not eat out a lot. I'm picky like that too but clean diets are not an easy match for NYC life, on a budget at least like eating out places gets difficult. Almost everything good tasting looks and smells like impulse buys and is loaded with carbs and improper food combinations.

Mexico is reported to have more obesity than the USA and it is because of the foods you outlined.
I respectfully disagree. I eat out practically every day (since my divorce in 2006). Im 5í4 and have never weighed more than 130 lbs. I just choose my foods wisely. In the mornings, Iím tempted to get egg and cheese but the protein and carbs are disastrous unless Iím scheduled to go to the gym later and do at least 30 minutes of cardio. But when I donít have time for gym, Ill do two fats- eggs and sausage or omelette without the bread as an example. In other words Keto- which is great for when you donít have time to go to the gym. Intermittent fasting is also refreshing and your body just gets adjusted to not eating as much.
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Old Yesterday, 12:58 PM
 
Location: New York
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So, yes, I think the genetics argument is overplayed, especially when I see how larger the portion sizes people (including people with weight problems) are eating today vs. decades ago. And decreasing rates of physical activity also play a role (this is discussed in the CDC link I posted).
A study published recently in the journal Obesity Research & Clinical Practice found that itís harder for adults today to maintain the same weight as those 20 to 30 years ago did, even at the same levels of food intake and exercise.

They found a very surprising correlation: A given person, in 2006, eating the same amount of calories, taking in the same quantities of macronutrients like protein and fat, and exercising the same amount as a person of the same age did in 1988 would have a BMI that was about 2.3 points higher. In other words, people today are about 10 percent heavier than people were in the 1980s, even if they follow the exact same diet and exercise plans.

[..]

First, people are exposed to more chemicals that might be weight-gain inducing. Pesticides, flame retardants, and the substances in food packaging might all be altering our hormonal processes and tweaking the way our bodies put on and maintain weight.

Second, the use of prescription drugs has risen dramatically since the Ď70s and Ď80s. Prozac, the first blockbuster SSRI, came out in 1988. Antidepressants are now one of the most commonly prescribed drugs in the U.S., and many of them have been linked to weight gain.

Finally, *** and the other study authors think that the microbiomes of Americans might have somehow changed between the 1980s and now. Itís well known that some types of gut bacteria make a person more prone to weight gain and obesity. Americans are eating more meat than they were a few decades ago, and many animal products are treated with hormones and antibiotics in order to promote growth. All that meat might be changing gut bacteria in ways that are subtle, at first, but add up over time. *** believes the proliferation of artificial sweeteners could also be playing a role.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...-1980s/407974/
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