Sean Bell Trial (motel, job, house)

[By~Tor]

My one & ONLY thought on this whole issue, is that perhaps, if Bell and Associates hadn't been driving drunk, they'd have heard the cops tell him to stop, and wouldn't have run over the one cop, thus forcing the others to unload on him......

The whole situation is sad, and no one was "right" in their actions... but, whenever you are in a situation involving the Police, the standard understanding is, that THEY are in control, and will REMAIN in control.... if you do anything to threaten them, or to give them the PERCEPTION (important word, there...) that you are a threat to them, they can, will and SHOULD do whatever they think necessary, to protect themselves....

Unfortunately, in this case, they thought there was a gun, and the driver (Bell) had already run into one cop... and so what happened, happened....

All Sharpton is doing, is preventing the widow, and the families involved from moving on with THEIR lives... and picking at the open wound, until it festers into something much larger and largely unrelated to the original incident...

[bbguy05]

Originally Posted by By~Tor

My one & ONLY thought on this whole issue, is that perhaps, if Bell and Associates hadn't been driving drunk, they'd have heard the cops tell him to stop, and wouldn't have run over the one cop, thus forcing the others to unload on him......

How do you know if Bell knew they were cops? We don't know if the cops did identify themselves or not. And even if they did, how did Bell know they really were cops? These cops COULD have approached Bell in many different other ways. They should have approached him before he got into the car. And even then, they should have flashed a badge and MADE SURE Bell knew they were cops and they wanted to talk to him.

Originally Posted by By~Tor

The whole situation is sad, and no one was "right" in their actions... but, whenever you are in a situation involving the Police, the standard understanding is, that THEY are in control, and will REMAIN in control.... if you do anything to threaten them, or to give them the PERCEPTION (important word, there...) that you are a threat to them, they can, will and SHOULD do whatever they think necessary, to protect themselves....

And should we give cops all that power, because it can EASILY get taken advantage of (which it always is) with the given lax standards in hiring new cops.

[sgtgeorge]

bbguy05,

Are you on the force?

[ontheGtrain]

Originally Posted by bbguy05

How do you know if Bell knew they were cops? We don't know if the cops did identify themselves or not. And even if they did, how did Bell know they really were cops? These cops COULD have approached Bell in many different other ways. They should have approached him before he got into the car. And even then, they should have flashed a badge and MADE SURE Bell knew they were cops and they wanted to talk to him.


And should we give cops all that power, because it can EASILY get taken advantage of (which it always is) with the given lax standards in hiring new cops.

How do you know they did not flash their badges? Because Fat Al said they didn't?? You hate cops. Nothing they do will make you happy.

[motherbearof4]

OntheGtrain,

I agree with you 100%. It is very easy to sit back and point fingers and pass judgment when you DON'T, WON'T and will NEVER to the job. They are so brave aren't they?

[pdcnret]

Originally Posted by sgtgeorge

bbguy05,

Are you on the force?

I sincerely doubt he has any experience with it. His posts reflect a basic ignorance of police procedure and an overwhelming bias against the police.

[Guywithacause]

BBguy05...don't worry about your posts or the negative, personal attacks on you. There are some on this thread that are just pro-cop no matter what and cannot think on their own. You do not need to be a veteran cop to know right from wrong, nor to understand absolute power corrupts absolutely. There are 2 sides to ever story and all we can do is speculate...some enjoy personal attacks on your credibility though...its a common practice for those that have no point, logic, and use emotion based rhetoric.

The fact remains that NOBODY knows what really went down, but we must abide by the judge's decision.

[motherbearof4]

Guywithacause,

It looks as though you are the one that has been insulting to everyone. You go from thread to thread just looking for fights. For you to sit and pass judgment on other people's opinions is WRONG. Are you better than everyone else?

[iluvmycuties]

This is the kind of situation that always caused such heated debate between me and my husband, who was with the NYPD. I always think, how on earth can you fire so many shots in such little time? I would always argue excessive force with him (drove him crazy). But he would try to get me to understand exactly what fear for your life + adrenaline do to the body and mind. As a mother, I can only liken it to those real-life scenarios where mothers have lifted cars to save their children, just from fear and adrenaline. Being that I have never handled a gun, nor been in a potentially life threatening situation, I don't think I'm qualified to say whether or not it was excessive. I just have to respect both sides. I'm sorry this man is dead and his family is in pain, and I am sorry those officers have to live with the fact that they did end someone's life, whether it was warranted or not. No one wins here.

[bbguy05]

You guys make me chuckle, I find it funny when people result to personal attacks. It means they have nothing else to say. It's sad, really sad.

To answer some of the questions, I would NEVER consider going on the force. There is too much abuse of power and corruption, and I don't want to be apart of that. And as a matter of fact, I do know the training cops go through. I've been through it.