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So explain to the audience how a jail destabilizes a surrounding neighborhood. In 2022. Examples would be helpful. What were the peoples' concerns?
Welcome to the new NYC as the ratio of normal to abnormal people skews towards the abnormal and their way of life becomes normalized in the name of "equity".
What's the big deal. How does a jail destabilize a neighborhood? People who've lived and live chaotic lives in chaotic neighborhoods do't see the issue.
Bill bozo now claims to be a native new yorker in fact he grew up in Cambridge, Massachusetts as Warren Wilhelm Jr.! He really don't care about NYC never did!
Which explains why he claims to hate the Yankees and be a fan of the Boston Red Sox.
Did your mama drop you on your head too many times as a child. The point is criminals get better living conditions then those not committing crimes.
Oh and btw I actually have worked and volunteered with the homeless and those down on their luck. How about you? What do you do for them?
Isn't typing his wealthy progressive Manhattanite advice on a forum enough to convince himself and everybody else he is more virtuous than people who actually are trying to not make their existence worse if ever affected enough? Or am I mistaken?
Rikers is tough...really really really tough.... Most people on Rikers have made someone else's life worse than life on Rikers. Who should we have more compassion for? Logically?
Now Rikers could be updated, and one of the biggest issues is the lack of Correction Officers, making it unsafe for both prisoners and CO's.
Also Rikers is not jail in Mexico, Paraguay and Russia.
So basically you're saying that the people getting released from jail, will stay and commit crimes in the neighborhood that surrounds the jail? That's interesting.
I am not saying that. I am saying that this will impact many neighborhoods, including those surrounding the jails because of how many people will be released that should not be.
I am not saying that. I am saying that this will impact many neighborhoods, including those surrounding the jails because of how many people will be released that should not be.
Well this is what you said:
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Originally Posted by pierrepont7731
You're talking from a historical perspective. The size and scale of these jails is like nothing before. I've been involved with this project and have been to many of the meetings and I can say that many many people in the surrounding areas are concerned and for good measure.
For starters, the City plans on achieving lower jail populations by essentially emptying out the current jails to make the new ones possible. We're seeing how that's working, with tons of repeat offenders. There were people at these jail meetings talking about how recidivism wouldn't be a problem, but clearly it is. They point to how many were in jail simply because they couldn't afford bail, but we're seeing lots of repeat offenders that should not be out and even they believe the new set up is a joke. You seem to have a high tolerance for crime for whatever reason, so I am exactly surprised by your comments.
So can you expand on what you said (the bolded)?
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Re-read what I wrote... I'm saying that it WILL impact not only the surrounding neighborhoods, but many others due to how many people will be released that should not have been out.
Re-read what I wrote... I'm saying that it WILL impact not only the surrounding neighborhoods, but many others due to how many people will be released that should not have been out.
All I want to know is how will jails impact the surrounding neighborhoods. If you cannot answer this question, despite having "worked on the project," then just say that you can't answer it
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I still never understood what is wrong with the Riker's location? If you don't want to expand LGA there, that location seems perfect for a jail complex. The horrible treatment or conditions in the jail itself have nothing to do with its location. The new locations would just make these mini-jails overcrowded fast. At least on Riker's you have ample land to expand and renovate existing facilities. Instead of wasting $8 billion to construct these boutique jails on expensive land, just plow that money into upgrading and modernizing Rikers itself.
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