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Old 05-13-2021, 03:50 PM
 
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FYI. Good for those who live in The Bronx, I'm guessing.

https://www.amny.com/news/four-new-m...-access-cuomo/

Governor Andrew Cuomo preached on rebuilding New York state after the COVID-19 pandemic, announcing a plan for the Bronx that included completing a connection for the Metro-North Railroad to Penn Station and four new stations in the borough.

Not only will Metro-North be accessible to Penn Station through Moynihan Train Hall, there will be new stops at Co-op City, Morris Park and Hunts Point, Cuomo said on Thursday morning, which could happen by 2025 after the federal government recently signed off.

“The key is access and access to mass transit. If you look at the parts of the city that have redeveloped quickly, you notice they all have one thing in common; They are all very accessible by train,” Cuomo said. “There’s a lot of problems with this idea, this is a complicated idea. It’s not just Metro North Metro North is part of MTA, the train tracks are owned by Amtrak and the federal government. This is complicated, and this is expensive. This is a lot of this is over a billion dollars.”

Cuomo says access to 160 trains, not including Amtrak, will be available to communities as part of the Metro-North improvements by the time the project wraps will be part of his larger plan to redevelop Penn into the Empire Station Complex.
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Old 05-13-2021, 03:53 PM
 
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FYI. Good for those who live in The Bronx, I'm guessing.

https://www.amny.com/news/four-new-m...-access-cuomo/

Governor Andrew Cuomo preached on rebuilding New York state after the COVID-19 pandemic, announcing a plan for the Bronx that included completing a connection for the Metro-North Railroad to Penn Station and four new stations in the borough.

Not only will Metro-North be accessible to Penn Station through Moynihan Train Hall, there will be new stops at Co-op City, Morris Park and Hunts Point, Cuomo said on Thursday morning, which could happen by 2025 after the federal government recently signed off.

“The key is access and access to mass transit. If you look at the parts of the city that have redeveloped quickly, you notice they all have one thing in common; They are all very accessible by train,” Cuomo said. “There’s a lot of problems with this idea, this is a complicated idea. It’s not just Metro North Metro North is part of MTA, the train tracks are owned by Amtrak and the federal government. This is complicated, and this is expensive. This is a lot of this is over a billion dollars.”

Cuomo says access to 160 trains, not including Amtrak, will be available to communities as part of the Metro-North improvements by the time the project wraps will be part of his larger plan to redevelop Penn into the Empire Station Complex.
2025, only 6 years late.

You forgot to point out that there will also be a stop in. .... PARKCHESTER !
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Old 05-13-2021, 04:01 PM
 
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FYI. Good for those who live in The Bronx, I'm guessing.

https://www.amny.com/news/four-new-m...-access-cuomo/

Governor Andrew Cuomo preached on rebuilding New York state after the COVID-19 pandemic, announcing a plan for the Bronx that included completing a connection for the Metro-North Railroad to Penn Station and four new stations in the borough.

Not only will Metro-North be accessible to Penn Station through Moynihan Train Hall, there will be new stops at Co-op City, Morris Park and Hunts Point, Cuomo said on Thursday morning, which could happen by 2025 after the federal government recently signed off.

“The key is access and access to mass transit. If you look at the parts of the city that have redeveloped quickly, you notice they all have one thing in common; They are all very accessible by train,” Cuomo said. “There’s a lot of problems with this idea, this is a complicated idea. It’s not just Metro North Metro North is part of MTA, the train tracks are owned by Amtrak and the federal government. This is complicated, and this is expensive. This is a lot of this is over a billion dollars.”

Cuomo says access to 160 trains, not including Amtrak, will be available to communities as part of the Metro-North improvements by the time the project wraps will be part of his larger plan to redevelop Penn into the Empire Station Complex.
Announcing?

This has been in the works for a while. I saw presentations on the Penn Station Access Program two or three years ago, and I know people who have been working on this project since well before COVID.

He must have some reason for "announcing" it now.
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Old 05-13-2021, 04:04 PM
 
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Announcing?

This has been in the works for a while. I saw presentations on this a couple of years ago, and I know people who have been working on this project since well before COVID.

He must have some reason for "announcing" it now.
I don't know what there was to announce either. I first heard of the plan in 2012 or 2013 at a community board meeting and at that point it was projected for completion in 2019 !
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Old 05-13-2021, 06:27 PM
 
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2025, only 6 years late.

You forgot to point out that there will also be a stop in. .... PARKCHESTER !
Parkchesta!!!
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Old 05-13-2021, 07:11 PM
 
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FYI. Good for those who live in The Bronx, I'm guessing.

https://www.amny.com/news/four-new-m...-access-cuomo/

Governor Andrew Cuomo preached on rebuilding New York state after the COVID-19 pandemic, announcing a plan for the Bronx that included completing a connection for the Metro-North Railroad to Penn Station and four new stations in the borough.

Not only will Metro-North be accessible to Penn Station through Moynihan Train Hall, there will be new stops at Co-op City, Morris Park and Hunts Point, Cuomo said on Thursday morning, which could happen by 2025 after the federal government recently signed off.

“The key is access and access to mass transit. If you look at the parts of the city that have redeveloped quickly, you notice they all have one thing in common; They are all very accessible by train,” Cuomo said. “There’s a lot of problems with this idea, this is a complicated idea. It’s not just Metro North Metro North is part of MTA, the train tracks are owned by Amtrak and the federal government. This is complicated, and this is expensive. This is a lot of this is over a billion dollars.”

Cuomo says access to 160 trains, not including Amtrak, will be available to communities as part of the Metro-North improvements by the time the project wraps will be part of his larger plan to redevelop Penn into the Empire Station Complex.



This is a very old plan that had run into all sorts of problems in the past (legal blockade by LIRR, disagreement between Amtrak and MTA re who should pay for major reconstruction of a railway bridge etc etc etc). Finally, in Feb 2020 MTA had the green light for the project legally, and had secured funding for it as the major component of their $50+ billion capital program for 2020-2024, and had come up with three big contractors who were supposed to start bidding on the project. Then almost immediately, the covid shutdown happened, and nothing further was heard about it. Presumably, Cuomo means to say that the process is now resuming from where it stopped in March 2020 (ie, that the three big contractors are submitting their bids)? The linked article is vague as can be, but I can't think of anything else that this "announcement"could mean.
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Old 05-13-2021, 09:14 PM
 
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I don't know what there was to announce either. I first heard of the plan in 2012 or 2013 at a community board meeting and at that point it was projected for completion in 2019 !
Wow. You're kidding me. That far back?! It's worse than that LaGuardia Air Train project that's going to/or not going to happen. Or the re-development plans for Willets Point. It'll be such an embarrassment if those two projects get completed first.
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Old 05-14-2021, 06:43 AM
 
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Wow. You're kidding me. That far back?! It's worse than that LaGuardia Air Train project that's going to/or not going to happen. Or the re-development plans for Willets Point. It'll be such an embarrassment if those two projects get completed first.

One thing that might be happening is that the MTA is also eyeballing the reduced commuting of financial and IT professionals in the future (as there is some initial evidence that a substantial chunk of their work will shift to work from home), and predominant use of commuter rail by blue collar and hospitality workers. Expanding access to commuter rail to this latter group may actually lead to maintaining the revenue for the commuter rail in the future (if the predominant population that uses the commuter rail daily shifts to the workforce from the Bronx rather than from Westchester). That could be contributory to the reason why this project all of a sudden could finally get prioritized.
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Old 05-14-2021, 08:06 AM
 
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At $216 for a monthly ticket to Grand Central Terminal (and possible same or more to Penn Station), how many people from Melrose and Tremont stations will be using MetroNorth?
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Old 05-14-2021, 08:13 AM
 
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Wow. You're kidding me. That far back?! It's worse than that LaGuardia Air Train project that's going to/or not going to happen. Or the re-development plans for Willets Point. It'll be such an embarrassment if those two projects get completed first.
LGA AirTrain RFQ has been on the street, and the Statements of Qualification for potential proposer teams are due next week. That process will identify a shortlist of three or four teams that will receive the Request For Proposals and compete for the project.

It does say at the beginning of the RFQ that this process is being done concurrently with the FAA environmental review and that the PA is undertaking the process at its own risk. In other words, the FAA review can still put the kibosh on it.
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