Going to NYC....want to see the ghettos (New York, Utica: tax return, dangerous)

[John9l0]

Originally Posted by jjbradleynyc

It's not the "poorest neighborhood" in the country today. Highly doubtful. The Bronx has several wealthy sections, and many middle class areas. So, to say the Bronx is poor overall, is not accurate. The South Bronx might be poor, but take a look at the Appalachian areas of eastern KY, WV, parts of VA, and western OH. These are very poor areas. Also, many other states have overall tremendously poor counties outside of cities. I'd say the South Bronx is definitely up there poverty-wise, but by no means is it the #1 poorest place in the US. That might've been true in the 70s.

The Bronx is the poorest urban county in the country.

[BronxPride]

Based on 2006 US Census data, the most recent poverty data available, Bronx county comes in 3rd in the list of Ten of the Highest Poverty-Rate Counties with 250,000 or more people. Brooklyn comes in 7th place.

1. Hidalgo County, TX 36.9% in poverty
2. Cameron County, TX 35.9%
3. Bronx County, NY 29.1%
7. Kings County, NY 22.6%

If you combine this list with the list for counties with a population of 65,000 to 249,999 people and make a total counties list, Bronx county comes in 10th place. Meaning there are 9 counties in the U.S. with a higher poverty rate. The poverty rate decreased .1%, it was 29.2% in 2005. There is a lot of poverty, but at least its in decline and we were not the only borough that made the list!
http://www.census.gov/prod/2007pubs/acs-08.pdf
http://www.census.gov/prod/2006pubs/acs-02.pdf

[SuperMario]

Originally Posted by BXGEAR

Many people in the north Bronx own their homes

Yeah true but then you have the Edenwald, Gun Hill, Baychester and Boston Secor houses spread throughout the north-east Bronx.

Edenwald itself is the biggest NYCHA complex in the Bronx.

[BronxPride]

Now for poverty by Congressional district. Unfortunately, based on 2006 data, 109th Congressional District Demographic Rankings Table by Proximity, the Bronx has the poorest congressional district.

1.NY 16 - 40.84% poverty, (per wikipedia, includes Bedford Park, East Tremont, Fordham, Hunts Point, Melrose, Morrisania, Mott Haven and University Heights. )
2. PA 01 - 30.65%
3. TX 25 - 30.63%
4. MI 13 - 30.35%
5. TX 15 - 30.29%
6. CA 20 - 30.24%
7. MS 02 - 28.85%
8. TX 27 - 28.44%
9. NY 15 - 27.79% poverty (per Wikipedia, includes Harlem, Inwood, Marble Hill, Spanish Harlem, Washington Heights, Morningside Heights and portions of the Upper West Side.
10. NY 10 - 27.54% poverty (per Wikipedia, includes Bedford-Stuyvesant, Brooklyn Heights, Brownsville, Canarsie, East New York and Ocean Hill, as well as parts of Fort Greene and Williamsburg. )

On the bright side, NY's 16th Congressional District's poverty decreased by 1.33% since 2000. Also, as you can see from the list, other NYC districts made the top 10 poor list.

%Poverty = percent population with income at or below poverty level

Links:
1. 109th Congressional District Demographics 2006 109th Congress Congressional District 2006 Demographics
2. 110 Congressional District Demographics (census 2000)110th Congress Congressional District Demographics
3. New York's 16th congressional district - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
4. New York's 15th congressional district - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
5. New York's 10th congressional district - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
6. US Census Bureau Poverty Measurement Poverty - How the Census Bureau Measures Poverty

[HPBX]

Originally Posted by jjbradleynyc

It's not the "poorest neighborhood" in the country today. Highly doubtful. The Bronx has several wealthy sections, and many middle class areas. So, to say the Bronx is poor overall, is not accurate. The South Bronx might be poor, but take a look at the Appalachian areas of eastern KY, WV, parts of VA, and western OH. These are very poor areas. Also, many other states have overall tremendously poor counties outside of cities. I'd say the South Bronx is definitely up there poverty-wise, but by no means is it the #1 poorest place in the US. That might've been true in the 70s.

Everyone else seems to have taken the liberty to answer you for me.
It seems to me that you're just taking in all the real-estate hype.

Originally Posted by cf77

I swear evertime I come on this board every thread turns into Bronx crime and Bronx income BS. It cracks me up that some of you search for the statistics and dwell on the bad asspects of the Bronx when in all acctuality the Bronx isnt so bad. Sure its not the prettiest or safest boro essspecially hunts point and some of the west bronx but in my opinion its the best boro and if your not a complete idiot you'll be fine there. The only person on here that acctually brings positive words to the Bronx on here is Guywithacause , it seems the rest just get jollys off of stats and what precinct had x amount of murders last month , keep the Bronx talk positive for God sakes its the best boro, the other sh*t just gets annoying to read.

Well here's the thing, the topic of the thread is about ghettos in NYC, so obviously crime and poverty are going to be brought up. Especially when it's about the Bronx.

[SuperMario]

BronxPride you forgot to include that Yankee Stadium is also inlcuded in the 16th.

Bt wait...that means that those areas are poorer than the Appalachias?

[HereKittyKittyKitty]

There are so many variables at work here that it's really difficult to make accurate comparisons between areas. Congressional districts vs. counties / urban vs. rural, etc.

In terms of absolute numbers, the Bronx definitely ranks very high on the list of population living in poverty. However, in terms of percentage, other areas are much higher.

Apples and oranges, folks.

[bx718]

Originally Posted by SuperMario

Yeah true but then you have the Edenwald, Gun Hill, Baychester and Boston Secor houses spread throughout the north-east Bronx.

Edenwald itself is the biggest NYCHA complex in the Bronx.

sm - those projects are a tiny percentage of the homes in the north BX -

[analyticalkeys]

Originally Posted by HereKittyKittyKitty

There are so many variables at work here that it's really difficult to make accurate comparisons between areas. Congressional districts vs. counties / urban vs. rural, etc.

In terms of absolute numbers, the Bronx definitely ranks very high on the list of population living in poverty. However, in terms of percentage, other areas are much higher.

Apples and oranges, folks.

Thank you for posting statistical evidence.

[zonababe]

Originally Posted by BXGEAR

I hate it when people bring up 3rd world countries and say it's more ghetto than somewhere else.. shut up. Go to Indonesia. Go to Africa. Go to North Korea. Go to Iraq

Camden NJ