Going to NYC....want to see the ghettos (New York, Livonia: crime rate, houses)

[SeventhFloor]

if really want to see a ghetto in nyc that resembles anything close to the 1980's then see rockaway avenue in brooklyn from atlantic avenue to broadway. thats a rough looking area.

far rockaway is bad in terms of crime but i really dont think there's a sizeable amount of urban decay there. you have to actually have something there for it to decay in the first place. there's a lot of public housing out here, but it doesnt look run-down from the outside. arverne and edgemere were both recently renovated. do a search for my thread on nycha pics and you'll see a representative of what the projects out here look like.

[BXGEAR]

I dont think a tourist should be going into the BX and Brownsville/ ENY.. esp the projects?

Take the N/W to Astoria. You can stop at Queensbridge, walk a few blocks north and see Ravenswood. Hugging Astoria Park is the Astoria Houses. All the while you have views of the East River & the East Side. And then there's Woodside Houses but that's out of the way and the area is unimpressive.

[SuperMario]

As a matter fo fact I take back my comment of the south Bronx looking the most run down. That area has received alot fo attention and many of the vacant lots are filled with luxurious housing. In use to be wastelands now you find row after row of family homes.

The west and central Bronx have more decay. If you want to see wastelands then go through Morrisania around Third ave. Lots and lots of vacant lots there.

If you want to see the Bronx circa 1980 go through University avenue from the cross Bronx to Tremont avenue. You find boarded windows, vacant lots, vacant blocks, and graffiti filled shopping centers.

I also recommended looking at East Tremont.

But still areas in Mott Haven look like crap. I just think the area recieved more of a makeover while the areas above and to the west stayed generally the same.

[Dennis Brown]

Your in the midwest so I would recommend going to the West Side (and parts of the South Side) of the Chi, North Side of St Louis or pratically any part of Detriot, Cleveland or East St Louis if your looking to fill your cup up with ghetto juice. If you do decide to take it to the East Coast go across the river to Brick City (newarK), work your way down to Camden, then hop over to the West Side of Philly and straight down to B-More and D.C.

Sorry your about 15 years late on your NYC 'Ultimate' ghetto fantasy run but if you really hell bent on getting up and personal with the hood take a hot summer weekend night you can start on Sutter Ave and Pennsylvania and make your way up to Mother Gaston with alot of red or blue on and a couple of visible gold chains on and see how it feels. Then when your done take it back over to Rutland Ave in the 90's, put on a fake Rasta Dreads setup with a I Love Jamaica shirt on and see how it feels lol

[Dennis Brown]

Originally Posted by SeventhFloor

well if you go to queensbridge stay on 21st street. if you want to see projects in harlem walk on broadway north on 125th street because those projects are not too bad. for the bronx, take the BX55 bus.

Yea the police got the projects locked down, all the hustling is done inside the buildings so its quiet on the outside plus recent immigrants are taking over the apartments new demographics different zone

[proroc]

Why any normal person would go to the ghetto just to go sight seeing is insane. Most people avoid ENY, Crown Heights, Brownsville and South Bronx like the plague.

[cf77]

Originally Posted by Dennis Brown

. If you do decide to take it to the East Coast go across the river to Brick City (newarK), work your way down to Camden

Seriously if you want ghetto check out those areas. Then again even during daylight its a big risk driving around nevermind walking.

[ProtexBlue292]

Hey thanks for the help so far. I'm not gonna spend my whole trip looking at that kind of stuff, just maybe part of a day looking around at it. I'm gonna see a bunch of other stuff in Manhattan and I'm going to a Yankees game so I will already be in the Bronx so I might as well look around a bit. I just want to go and see what the tourists don't usually see and see the outer boroughs instead of just seeing the regular sights in Manhattan. I've been to NYC before but I only really went around Manhattan. So it should be a fun trip, keep the ideas of places to go coming.

[bxchick]

I say go! I think it will be a interesting experience. If you want to see projects you can go to Manhattanville and Grant projects in Harlem their really close to 125th so you can also go to see the Apollo Theater and everything 125th has to offer. The South Bronx doesnt look as bad as it use to but there are some areas that still look pretty bad. Since you are a tourist I say go to Queensbridge simply because its the largest housing projects in the U.S. You can go to Bedstuy, Flatbush or Brownsville Brooklyn and look around Im sure you will find something interesting and you will defintely find some projects. Just go in the Day and you should be ok. You should tell us what happened when u get back. Have Fun!!!

[drkman]

Originally Posted by proroc

Why any normal person would go to the ghetto just to go sight seeing is insane. Most people avoid ENY, Crown Heights, Brownsville and South Bronx like the plague.

Hey, leave Crown Heights out of this