NYC's future = disneyland for yuppies ?? (New York, Paris: taxes, to live, housing)

[Materialism]

Originally Posted by SeventhFloor

let me educate you, like i have done to others previously on this topic.

first of all, do you even know why NYCHA exists?

it exists because the projects were built as a solution to overcrowded tenement slums, five points for example. if you are unfamiliar with the name, google it.

NYCHA developments were built on the former sites of these shantytowns. as hard as it seems to believe, yes, these conditions existed in manhattan!

so if the concept seems so hard for you to grasp, thats why projects are in manhattan.

you obviously dont have knowledge of the history of this city, or maybe you do, and you choose to ignore it. either way, you're not demonstrating true new yorker grit and courage. hell, even phillip drummond went to harlem in an episode of diffrent strokes looking for arnold and willis.

let me take you back to ellis island, the gateway to america, that welcomed millions of immigrants who called nyc home. these ideologies are the same that produces construction workers to build your prada stores by hand, the waiters who serve you at danube and bouley, the taxi drivers who break their neck to make sure you dont miss your first class flight to paris.

the projects were there before the gentrifcation began....nobody asked these people to move across the street from them, so why complain now? thats like somebody telling me the fire's hot, yet i stick my hand in it and cry because i got burned.

there are plenty of upper-class communities worldwide with no public housing in them. try beverly hills, that may suit your tastes a bit more, as in nyc, we welcome all. its a city for positive growth and achievement, and not such fantasylands like you desire. plenty of those on the west coast.

Who cares about history of tenements? Times change.

Manhattan is very wealthy. In fact, Manhattan is the wealthiest county in the United States so I think all public housing in Manhattan should be blown up and be replaced with more market-rate housing for you know, the normal people around the country who actually work and contribute to the economy who kill to get into the city.

Public housing in Manhattan needs to be razed and relocated outside of the city.

It worked for Paris.

[analyticalkeys]

Originally Posted by Materialism

Who cares about history of tenements? Times change.

Manhattan is very wealthy. In fact, Manhattan is the wealthiest county in the United States so I think all public housing in Manhattan should be blown up and be replaced with more market-rate housing for you know, the normal people around the country who actually work and contribute to the economy who kill to get into the city.

Public housing in Manhattan needs to be razed relocated outside of the city.

It worked for Paris.

And where is there room to relocate these buildings? Manhattan is just a normal borough like the other four.. it has it's perks, but most of us FROM the city don't view it any differently, and don't think it deserves any special treatment if it's not being given to the other boroughs.

[Materialism]

Originally Posted by analyticalkeys

And where is there room to relocate these buildings? Manhattan is just a normal borough like the other four.. it has it's perks, but most of us FROM the city don't view it any differently, and don't think it deserves any special treatment if it's not being given to the other boroughs.

Ummm, I don't mean to be too elitist but Manhattan is not "normal" like the other boroughs. Manhattan is the center of the economy and what makes New York spectacular and an elite world city.

Let's put it this way, NYC could survive and would do very, very, VERY well without Queens, Bronx, Brooklyn and Staten Island but NYC would not be "the best city in the world" and have the prestige, status and immense wealth as it does now without Manhattan.

So yes, Manhattan does deserve special treatment. Always.

[Rudbeckia]

Originally Posted by Materialism

Ummm, I don't mean to be too elitist but Manhattan is not "normal" like the other boroughs. Manhattan is the center of the economy and what makes New York spectacular and an elite world city.

Let's put it this way, NYC could survive and would do very, very, VERY well without Queens, Bronx, Brooklyn and Staten Island but NYC would not be "the best city in the world" and have the prestige, status and immense wealth as it does now without Manhattan.

So yes, Manhattan does deserve special treatment. Always.

Materialism- do you not think that a huge part of Manhattan runs on the backs of people from the Bronx, Queens, and Brooklyn?? Do you seriously think Manhattan would not be affected if the other boroughs did not exist?

I can't decide if you really believe the things you say, or if you are trying to to get a rise out of people on this board. You have zero understanding of how the economy works.

[Materialism]

Originally Posted by Rudbeckia

Materialism- do you not think that a huge part of Manhattan runs on the backs of people from the Bronx, Queens, and Brooklyn?? Do you seriously think Manhattan would not be affected if the other boroughs did not exist?

I can't decide if you really believe the things you say, or if you are trying to to get a rise out of people on this board. You have zero understanding of how the economy works.

Sweetie, I don't need a lecture on how the economy works because I know what I'm talking about.

Whenever you have that doubt, please revert to Paris, France and their lack of public housing in Central Paris but in thie case, think of Central Paris as Manhattan.

Public housing should be outside of Manhattan and I'm not sure how that statement has anything to do with my alleged lack of economic knowledge.

[Rudbeckia]

Paris and NYC are similar: both cities are pushing out the middle and lower classes. Paris still has a huge amount of people that commute into the city to work, just as Manhattan has the other 4 boroughs. Both Paris and NYC need those people, the cities would not run if they were only made up of people like you.

I still dont understand why you feel Manhattan deserves special treatment. What makes Manhattan more important than anywhere else, is it just b/c rich people live there???

[Materialism]

Originally Posted by Rudbeckia

Paris and NYC are similar: both cities are pushing out the middle and lower classes. Paris still has a huge amount of people that commute into the city to work, just as Manhattan has the other 4 boroughs. Both Paris and NYC need those people, the cities would not run if they were only made up of people like you.

I still dont understand why you feel Manhattan deserves special treatment. What makes Manhattan more important than anywhere else, is it just b/c rich people live there???

Yes.

[Rudbeckia]

The way you think is sad. Your money does not make you more important than anyone else.

[Minato ku]

Originally Posted by Materialism

Public housing in Manhattan needs to be razed and relocated outside of the city.

It worked for Paris.

As I have already said Paris never did it.
People should remeber that inner Paris is the departement with the second highest poverty and unemployement rate in Paris region. (out 8 departement).
Outside the wealthy 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th 9th and 16th arrondissment (418,800 inh) there is the working class 10th, 13th, 18th, 19th and 20th arrondissement (837,800 inh).
And even the wealthy 1st, 2nd, 4th and 9th arrondissement have public housing.

Honestly I don't see why you want transform Manhattan in a disneyland for yuppies and tourists, Manhatan will lost its vibe, yes gentrification is not bad but creating ghetto for rich is.

[cjma79]

Originally Posted by Rudbeckia

The way you think is sad. Your money does not make you more important than anyone else.

No many doesnt make me important and I dont think that way..
But tell me having NO MONEY MAKES THEM IMPORTANT???
So why should someone pay 3,000 for a one bedroom,, and other 2 blocks away pay 500 or less.... ohh that fair...