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Old 07-17-2008, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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Dude's been there forever, and it just seems a little fishy to me that all of a sudden there's all this focus on him. It seems to me like there are some moves being made behind the scenes to get him out of power. Anyone else picking up on this?
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Old 07-17-2008, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Mott Haven
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I sure hope there is!! His time has been up for about 15 years...2008 is about CHANGE. He's gotta go!
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Old 07-17-2008, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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I sure hope there is!! His time has been up for about 15 years...2008 is about CHANGE. He's gotta go!
I agree with you. He's gotten by on past laurels for far too long.
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Old 07-17-2008, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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It's true that he's been around for a long time. But he's probably New York City's best voice in Congress. If he goes, who's going to fill that role?
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Old 07-17-2008, 10:29 AM
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If this is true, we will see it time. If it is, this is totally a case of what goes around, comes around. I saw a documentary some time ago. It showed how Rangel and some others used similiar tactics to bring down the Late congressman Adam Clayton Powell Jr. This is how Rangel came to power. There are quite a few Harlemites that would like to see Powell III, take over Rangel's congressional seat. Powell III's mother is Puerto Rican and he was raised there.
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Old 07-17-2008, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Mott Haven
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You think Rangel does anything useful besides usurp, exploit, and hustle? His time has passed....and there are NUMEROUS people that will fill his shoes and do a better job. He can stay home and enjoy his luxury rent stabilized apartments.
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Old 07-17-2008, 12:46 PM
 
Location: No Sleep Til Brooklyn
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I think that with Obama's ascendancy that the mostly white press is getting that black voters are not monolithic, that we don't all support the same old-school politicos, and that we are grateful for what those who came before have done for us, but that is is time to move on to fresh ideas and a fresh perspective and away from the victim mentality represented by folks like Rangel, Sharpton, and Jesse Jackson.
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Old 07-17-2008, 01:08 PM
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I think that with Obama's ascendancy that the mostly white press is getting that black voters are not monolithic, that we don't all support the same old-school politicos, and that we are grateful for what those who came before have done for us, but that is is time to move on to fresh ideas and a fresh perspective and away from the victim mentality represented by folks like Rangel, Sharpton, and Jesse Jackson.
Would you put Rangel in the same catagory as Sharpton and Jackson? I am asking because most Harlemites feel that Rangel didn't do that much concerning housing and business opportunities for them until gentrification started. Then they feel that he sold them out. He is identified more with the establishment and status quo. Where as Sharpton and Jackson are something else altogether.
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Old 07-17-2008, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Mott Haven
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Agreed UpsDowns. Regarding Rangel, he is definitely "old school" in every way that one can be....he is all status quo and establishment...time for CHANGE!
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Old 07-17-2008, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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I don't know about the focus being on Rangel per se but it does appear that the New York Times is exploring certain things going on in Harlem. From the drum circle to Rangel and both issues with the underlying message of what people are paying for their space. Seems kind of curious but I don't know the reason for it. Time will tell, I guess.
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