Brooklyn v. New Jersey. (New York, Harrison: apartment, crime rates, buying a home)

[Fred314X]

Originally Posted by BXGEAR

I have a friend in Marlboro. It's the countryside with lots of neat housing and commuters getting on and off coach buses

Excuse me; Marlboro was "countryside" 30 years ago. Today you can't even really call it suburbia anymore; it's become exurbia. Open spaces are disappearing right before your eyes as they put up more malls than you have fingers to count them on, and the majority of housing there is tract housing (yes, some is more expensive than others, but tract housing all the same).

As to the buses, believe me when I tell you that I took them to work, once upon a time. If you have a job in New York City (or even Newark, for that matter, since there's one bus that goes there), you can look forward to putting in a 13 or 14-hour day--if not longer--adding in commuting time. And the weekly commutation ticket, which was all of $25 once upon a time, has more than quintupled.

And when you open the fridge and see that you need a new container of milk, you can count on driving several miles to the shopping center.

Anyone who wants a "suburban lifestyle" like that is welcome to it. In fact, they get what they deserve!

[sfabian]

It's a tough decision to make. The best combination is to have a modest house at the Jersey Shore and a nice pad in Brooklyn. I think one needs the augmentation. That's the point that really has not been addressed.

[Fred314X]

Originally Posted by sfabian

It's a tough decision to make. The best combination is to have a modest house at the Jersey Shore and a nice pad in Brooklyn. I think one needs the augmentation. That's the point that really has not been addressed.

"Augmentation?" What do you mean by that?

[rsdplaya]

Originally Posted by Andysocks

People want a bigger house for the same amount of money, that's probably the most unbiased answer out there.

seems to be it. you'll get more for your money housing wise.

but now, you have that car payment, etc. that you need to throw in.

oh sheesh fabian: we're not all made of money!

[StrugglingMusician91]

Brooklyn in my opinion is the way to go. Bay ridge is very nice. If you want to pay less and live in a NJ town that is like Bay Ridge i would suggest Kearny, harrison, Bloomfield, Belleville, montclair(though not so much0 or Garfield. But you are not gonna get the Brooklyn amenities at all. Also the schools will probably not be as good though I don't really know. So in my opinion there is no contest between Bay Ridge and any Bay Ridge like town in NJ. Ive lived in Brooklyn and Jersey and gotta say for me Jersey doesn't hold a candle to BK

[openheads]

NY'ers are so tedious & predictable.
You are picking the most way out & distant towns in NJ to compare.
Fred................. North Jersey does not consider Central NJ the "Suburbs". It's just way out in the cut. The place in between the ocean & "real NJ".
Bergen, Essex, Passaic & such have been conspicuously not discussed. Many are not "suburbs" per se, but old towns swallowed up by the Metro area.
They have their own walkable areas, eateries, ect, ect.
Let me stop though, this is an exercise in futility. NYC will forever & a day be the provincial epicenter of America.
There is no point............................. At least until you NY'ers have kids & then it's NJ or LI here I come.

[Fred314X]

Originally Posted by openheads

NY'ers are so tedious & predictable.

As opposed to New Jerseyites (Jerseyans? What do you call someone from that state, anyway?) who are exciting and unpredictable, I guess!

The fact of the matter is that there never would have been much development in New Jersey if it didn't happen to be wedged in between New York on one side and Philadelphia on the other. You can put down New York City--or any of its component boroughs--to your heart's content, but that doesn't change anything.

As to families...you may not have noticed, but there are a few million of them who call NYC home. And it isn't because they're forced to stay here.

[tommyc_37]

There is a variety of neighborhoods in Brooklyn, and a variety of towns in NJ. In both Brooklyn and NJ, the landscape runs the full gamut from urban to suburban. For very urban, and walkable (no need for a car), look towards Hoboken and Jersey City. For suburban, but with a "hub" feel, look towards Montclair, the Caldwells, even Morristown.

For anybody to say that any neighborhood in NYC is greater than anywhere in NJ, is the most ridiculous thing I've heard on City Data. It is apples to oranges. There are many people in suburban NJ (and Long Island and Westchester) who hate NYC and never set a foot in it. So they would say anything in NJ is infinitely better than anything in NYC. It's equally as ignorant.

To KONY -- Is the ghetto of Brownsville Brooklyn better the nice brownstone neighborhoods in Jersey City that are lined with cafes and bars and has a thriving art scene?

Silly...

[FrmlyBklyn]

Originally Posted by StrugglingMusician91

Brooklyn in my opinion is the way to go. Bay ridge is very nice. If you want to pay less and live in a NJ town that is like Bay Ridge i would suggest Kearny, harrison, Bloomfield, Belleville, montclair(though not so much0 or Garfield. But you are not gonna get the Brooklyn amenities at all. Also the schools will probably not be as good though I don't really know. So in my opinion there is no contest between Bay Ridge and any Bay Ridge like town in NJ. Ive lived in Brooklyn and Jersey and gotta say for me Jersey doesn't hold a candle to BK

Do not move to Garfield, Bloomfield, Belleville, Harrison or Kearny - unless you have the means to send your kids to private school. The school systems aren't as good as other more expensive towns. Montclair is pricey and some parts of it are nicer than others.

Here's what most New Jersey towns don't have, that Brooklyn has: You won't hear car alarms beeping at all hours of the day or night, no boom-boom coming from passing cars, no cherry-bomb mufflers from the hot-shot wannabees who sink all their cash into their cars, no garbarge on the street - every street in Brooklyn has some type of garbage in the street. There is rudeness in every state, just more of it seems to come out of NYC streets. The main language spoken in NY seems to be a combination of NY English, profanity and ebonics. Go into any school and hear the kids speak, you will be astounded. Most kids are polite in NJ, kids in Brooklyn can be quite rough around the edges depending on neighborhood. Brooklyn has higher levels of violent crime.

What Jersey lacks: a great public transportation system with frequent buses/trains. If you miss a Jersey transit change, you most likely are S.O.L. until the next one which depending on location could be almost an hours wait, if not longer. NJ Transit can be pricey, with one way tickets costing $4 and up. Cultural museums - have to go to NYC for that.
Great pizza/bagels, hands down Brooklyn wins! Lower taxes, stay in brooklyn - nj taxes will kill you here, long island is not much better.

[K.O.N.Y]

Originally Posted by Fred314X

As opposed to New Jerseyites (Jerseyans? What do you call someone from that state, anyway?) who are exciting and unpredictable, I guess!

The fact of the matter is that there never would have been much development in New Jersey if it didn't happen to be wedged in between New York on one side and Philadelphia on the other. You can put down New York City--or any of its component boroughs--to your heart's content, but that doesn't change anything.

As to families...you may not have noticed, but there are a few million of them who call NYC home. And it isn't because they're forced to stay here.

i wouldnt even waste my time.

People need to stop comparing new york to anywhere else. New york is a completely different experience from any other city or state in the united states let alone new jersey.

If u want new york than move to new york. Its as simple as that


And its funny when jersians bring up brownsville, south bronx.....etc. None are comparable to newark, camden trenton.......etc lmao