Brooklyn v. New Jersey. (Ridge, Springs: crime, living in, prices)

[StrugglingMusician91]

Originally Posted by FrmlyBklyn

Do not move to Garfield, Bloomfield, Belleville, Harrison or Kearny - unless you have the means to send your kids to private school. The school systems aren't as good as other more expensive towns. Montclair is pricey and some parts of it are nicer than others.

Here's what most New Jersey towns don't have, that Brooklyn has: You won't hear car alarms beeping at all hours of the day or night, no boom-boom coming from passing cars, no cherry-bomb mufflers from the hot-shot wannabees who sink all their cash into their cars, no garbarge on the street - every street in Brooklyn has some type of garbage in the street. There is rudeness in every state, just more of it seems to come out of NYC streets. The main language spoken in NY seems to be a combination of NY English, profanity and ebonics. Go into any school and hear the kids speak, you will be astounded. Most kids are polite in NJ, kids in Brooklyn can be quite rough around the edges depending on neighborhood. Brooklyn has higher levels of violent crime.

What Jersey lacks: a great public transportation system with frequent buses/trains. If you miss a Jersey transit change, you most likely are S.O.L. until the next one which depending on location could be almost an hours wait, if not longer. NJ Transit can be pricey, with one way tickets costing $4 and up. Cultural museums - have to go to NYC for that.
Great pizza/bagels, hands down Brooklyn wins! Lower taxes, stay in brooklyn - nj taxes will kill you here, long island is not much better.

Jesus you make Brooklyn sound like a terrible place. As far as the whole noise thing, yea there is more noise, Brooklyn is more densely populated. The garbage thing I don't think is accurate. Maybe some streets in Brooklyn are like that but certainly not most of them. I live in Ridgewood, Queens on the border of Bushwick and even in Bushwick where alot of people call an undesireable neighborhood, I don't see trash piling up all over the place. Actually the litter filled blocks that I do know are in Queens. Also, as far as rudeness I see no difference between Jersey and Brooklyn or between most of the other states for that matter. There are rude people and nice people everywhere.

[tommyc_37]

Originally Posted by K.O.N.Y

i wouldnt even waste my time.

People need to stop comparing new york to anywhere else. New york is a completely different experience from any other city or state in the united states let alone new jersey.

If u want new york than move to new york. Its as simple as that


And its funny when jersians bring up brownsville, south bronx.....etc. None are comparable to newark, camden trenton.......etc lmao

Actually the crime rates in Brownsville and So Bronx are higher than any city in NJ, including Newark, Camden, and Trenton.

[scatman]

Brooklyn pro....
1. Walkability/public transportation in most of borough
2. Lots of different neighborhoods with own flavor
3. Low property taxes if buying a home

Brooklyn con....
1. Expensive to buy, rent
2. Too much congestion, density for people who want space
3. Public schools may not be the best depending on neighborhood

Jersey pro....
1. Cheaper prices to buy houses
2. School systems all great (public and private)
3. Lots of nice little towns

Jersey con....
1. If Property taxes can kill!!!!!!!!!!
2. Commute is crowded, long, more expensive!
3. Politics will make one shower!

[cocoaeve]

Lived in Brooklyn for over 8 years, Crown Heights to be exact and still work there. Now I live in Jersey City Heights for 6 months now.

BK is just like JC in some ways, they both have the good and bad areas.

They both have a downtown that is up and coming but most feel downtown is better than the inner neighborhoods.

BK you really don't have to worry about missing a bus or train because MTA really doesn't run on a schedule like Jersey. (only thing I miss).

You really need a car in Jersey.

Brooklyn, rents can get astronomically high and the space is small whereas in JC you can find a good size apt for less money and maybe even more anemities.

Why I left BK, well I got tired of living in NYC and wanted to see what was across the river.

[clevedark]

New Jersey has no population shortage and no need to promote itself. It has the highest state income level in the nation, a highly educated workforce, strong local industries such as pharma and finance. As far as our nation goes it's pretty much the top of the heap.

Brooklyn is a fine place too. Live wherever feels right for you. Nobody is forcing you to move from Brooklyn to Jersey, and nobody cares, either. This is one of the nicest things about our country--you're allowed to choose where you live.

Most of the time when people move out of the city they move where their friends and families move. You cannot hop in your car and drive cold into Jersey and figure the place out. There are too many different kinds of towns to form any kind of cohesive opinion. Kind of like closing your eyes and picking out a place on a subway map of Brooklyn, and basing your opinions on that one trip.

Oy vey.

[sfabian]

Interesting responses but the bottom line is you have to live somewhere so what really motivates one to choose a location? From my life experience and I was born in NJ and lived around most of that small state, overall its a drag. Even the exclusive communities like Summit etc. are just dull normal as far as life style goes. There are plenty of high level areas in Brooklyn. All I know is that when I cross over the V I feel like I'm back in civilization (no offense to SI). I don't miss NJ transit. It sucks commuting by BUS from places like Toms River to NYC and for what-- a bed. All that way just to have a bed. And the line's around the block at 0530am. You have no time or energy left as all of it is used fighting with the other mindless sloths for such nonsense as an aisle seat on the bus etc. I've seen it and it's the epitome of mindlessness It's truly a jerkwater way to exist. The house may shine but its just a white elephant. Half the population of NJ lives south of the Driscall bridge (GSP 123) and alot of them still commute back up to the city either by bus or by the slow boat to china NJT trains. Live where you work and if you cannot work where you live then move. Why do so many live in the south of NJ now. Because of the romantic exagerated dream of the "shore". It's pathetic that NJ has Bruce Springsteen's junk as its state song. He doesn't qualify as a guitar player. Real players just laugh at his mickey mouse stuff.

[clevedark]

I'll pose the classic question to you, sfabian. If NJ is so bad, then why does everyone live there?

[Fred314X]

Originally Posted by clevedark

I'll pose the classic question to you, sfabian. If NJ is so bad, then why does everyone live there?

"Everyone" doesn't live in New Jersey. Of course, as a native Brooklynite I might conceivably be biased when I say that. But my own observations indicate that, in fact, people live outside of New Jersey. Lots and lots of people live outside New Jersey.

[BergenCountyJohnny]

Originally Posted by Fred314X

"Everyone" doesn't live in New Jersey. Of course, as a native Brooklynite I might conceivably be biased when I say that. But my own observations indicate that, in fact, people live outside of New Jersey. Lots and lots of people live outside New Jersey.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and speak for clevedark...

When someone says something like he said - "If NJ is so bad then why does everyone live there" - I think we can safely assume that clevedark is aware of the fact that there are people who live elsewhere, and what is meant is "why does everyone who lives in NJ live there???" It is definitely understood that he is referring to those who live in NJ, given the context of his question.

For example, I met with a former co-worker who informed me that about 10 people we worked with there have left the company. I asked her, "Well where did everyone go?" I didn't need to say, "Well where did everyone who left the company go??" It was understood within the context of our conversation that I was asking about those who left, not about everyone in the whole entire world.

How can you not understand this kind of thing? Or were you doing it on purpose?

Mod cut: not necessary.

[Fred314X]

Originally Posted by BergenCountyJohnny

How can you not understand this kind of thing? Or were you doing it on purpose?

You picked up on that, did you? For some strange reason, I didn't actually think that it was physically possible for "everyone" to live in New Jersey. The whole state covers less than 9,000 square miles. Even if everyone was packed into 50-story tall apartment houses, there would still be a spillover into both New York and Pennsylvania.