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Old 07-28-2008, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Queens
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LIC covers a big area. There's a section near Astoria which is nice, and highly desirable, and then there's the part near Queensboro where there's a lot of factories, and projects as you go further down.
Astoria Houses and Ravenswood Houses are located west of 31st in Astoria. Queensbridge Houses is located just north of Queensboro Plaza. As you head south, it actually gets better. More industrial but there are huge condo developments, around Gantry State Park. This area is off the Vernon-Jackson Ave subway stop on the 7
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Old 07-31-2008, 07:14 PM
 
Location: New York
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Thank you! I have researched every city in Queens that everyone has mentioned but unfortunately I am not having any luck. The schools that I am happy about are the ones that ARE diverse but have more of one race such as :

53% - Hispanic
17% - Black
17% - White
6% - Asian

Which is not exactly what we want. The 53% for example its just too much. I really would like the diversity of every race in the school. Which is getting to be quite challenging.

Can anyone suggest another town or a town that you may live in that is diverse (school wise) ?

- Thank you
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Old 07-31-2008, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Bay Ridge, NY
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I mean.. does it really matter? I'm not trying to be coy, I'm just saying that even in a diverse school.. your child has a good chance of being in classes with people of generally one race, as well..

Most people stick to one area, so it's going to be hard to find true diversity, just as close as you can get.
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Old 07-31-2008, 07:32 PM
 
Location: New York
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Default 13 years in queens public school taught me this

These high schools in Queens may be diverse but this mythical diversity experience that this person is clamoring for just does not exist. These high schools are diverse in the same the way jails are diverse. The different ethnic groups all cluster together, stay with their own and there is measurable tension between each group. When I went to these schools in the 80's and 90's the suburban people had not yet arrived en masse but the few that were there did not fit in at all. It was important to be part of one of the ethnic groups, whether it was the Black, the various Latinos, the Greeks, The Italians or one of the Oriental groups. There really was not a white group with whiteboys named Tyler or Taylor. If Tyler did show up with his Mommy from Rochester NY he would clearly be at the bottom of the social pecking order and find a challenging situation to find acceptance and day to day safety. Not sure how a lone whitegirl would fare at a Queens public school but I am sure she would be barraged with potential suitors from many of the groups. She would be wise to leave the suburban promiscuity behind and find a boyfriend fast and settled down in a protected mode.


These diversity experiences that these people are talking about only exist in theory, not in reality. It is best to admire diversity from a distance and value it as something that makes you feel good about yourself and proves to yourself that you are just better than your racist parents and grandparent. Diversity is a hypothetical value for rich white people with Jamaican nannies not a reality for real people. If you do try to make diversity your reality, you will surely be disappointed and at the very worst you may be left very bitter and angry.
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Old 07-31-2008, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Bay Ridge, NY
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These high schools in Queens may be diverse but this mythical diversity experience that this person is clamoring for just does not exist. These high schools are diverse in the same the way jails are diverse. The different ethnic groups all cluster together, stay with their own and there is measurable tension between each group. When I went to these schools in the 80's and 90's the suburban people had not yet arrived en masse but the few that were there did not fit in at all. It was important to be part of one of the ethnic groups, whether it was the Black, the various Latinos, the Greeks, The Italians or one of the Oriental groups. There really was not a white group with whiteboys named Tyler or Taylor. If Tyler did show up with his Mommy from Rochester NY he would clearly be at the bottom of the social pecking order and find a challenging situation to find acceptance and day to day safety. Not sure how a lone whitegirl would fare at a Queens public school but I am sure she would be barraged with potential suitors from many of the groups. She would be wise to leave the suburban promiscuity behind and find a boyfriend fast and settled down in a protected mode.


These diversity experiences that these people are talking about only exist in theory, not in reality. It is best to admire diversity from a distance and value it as something that makes you feel good about yourself and proves to yourself that you are just better than your racist parents and grandparent. Diversity is a hypothetical value for rich white people with Jamaican nannies not a reality for real people. If you do try to make diversity your reality, you will surely be disappointed and at the very worst you may be left very bitter and angry.
I wholeheartedly agree with this after attending Queens public schools myself.
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Old 07-31-2008, 07:37 PM
 
Location: New York
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Thanks I agree aswell! I am just going to pick a school already since school is starting in 4 more weeks for her!

Does anyone know how Bellerose is ? or what it is next too. I found a school that seems to be pretty good.

Thank you
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Old 07-31-2008, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Queens
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Cardozo in Bayside is decently diverse, especially considering its location. Like 40% Asian, 30% white, 20% black... dunno about hispanic, but since it probably overlaps a bit with white so more than 10% at least.
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Old 07-31-2008, 08:19 PM
 
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What's interesting is that, as a county, Queens is the most "diverse" county in the United States. You have to put that into proper perspective though as well. What about schools in Bayside, Flushing and Far Rockaway?

Also geralnique, when you moved Upstate, if you want a high school that is good and diverse, try Ithaca as the first choice. Very good schools, with a lot of influence from Cornell University, an Ivy League school in the city. Some other schools to think about are:Buffalo's Hutchinson Central Tech High and City Honors(very, very good HS), Binghamton High, Syracuse's Nottingham High(a lot of people affiliated with Syracuse Univ. live in that area) and Corcoran High(best grad rate in city, but is about 70% Black), Watertown(military town), Rochester's School of the Arts High and Wilson Magnet, Geneva, Jamestown, Dunkirk, Schenectady, Amsterdam, Niagara Falls, Plattsburgh, Oneonta, Rome Free Academy, Utica's Proctor High and Troy's Lansingburgh High, among other urban HS's, big and small cities.

Some suburban districts to consider Upstate are:Cleveland Hill, Gates-Chili, Rush-Henrietta, Liverpool, Jamesville-DeWitt, Union-Endicott, Johnson City, East Irondequoit, Amherst, Sweet Home, Colonie(South Colonie SD), Watervliet, Rensselaer and Cheektowaga, among others.

If you want to go private, try Albany's Bishop Maginn(best combo of diversity and schooling), Syracuse's Bishop Ludden, Rochester's Bishop Kearney, Aquinas or Nazareth(All-girls school), among some others.

Also, try Orange County school districts, some of the Poughkeepsie suburban SD's and the schools in other Hudson Valley counties.

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Old 07-31-2008, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Queens
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try Ithaca as the first choice
I hear kids of the professors, the kids of the city folks, and the kids of the nearby rural areas who go to the same school don't get along at all. Like the cliques are divided three-way along those lines. At least that's what my mom's boyfriend's brother who lives there claims. He may also be exaggerating, his daughters don't seem like the most socially adept pair in the world anyway.
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Old 07-31-2008, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Queens
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Thanks I agree aswell! I am just going to pick a school already since school is starting in 4 more weeks for her!

Does anyone know how Bellerose is ? or what it is next too. I found a school that seems to be pretty good.

Thank you
Wait are we talking about high school? Bellerose goes to Van Buren, but you can apply to any high school in Queens and certain other high schools within city limits.
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