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Old 10-11-2008, 02:53 PM
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I still haven't made my move to Norwood, it's taking me longer than I expected to decide. The deal I was offered is a little better now due to the economy (seller is worried... which is good for me). There's really not too much info online about Norwood or Bedford park. About 5-10 articles in the newspapers and 1-2 newish blogs. Next month I will finally be able to go in person and spend some time walking around. I am sure that is what I will base my decision on.

In the meantime... I would love any more info anyone could give me. Walking around Google Street view I barely see any resturants... are there any diners in Norwood? Do all the doctors and nurses who work at Montefiore commute away or do some live in Norwood? I don't see any gyms there either. I guess with the low rent I could buy a treadmill or if it's safe run in Williamsbridge Oval. People have to pay to get into the Oval right? Hmm I wonder if Verizon Fios is up there... well ok.. Im rambling. I'm hungry for anything anyone knows. I don't want to make a mistake. Thanks for reading and your replies!
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Old 10-11-2008, 02:56 PM
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Don't be so sure about buying a treadmill if someone lives downstairs from you. Having lived downstairs from someone with a rowing machine, I can say that I had a complete stop put to his athletic endeavours, as the noise and vibration completely disrupted my life.
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Old 10-11-2008, 03:23 PM
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Oh I didn't think of that.... good point!
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Old 10-11-2008, 03:39 PM
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My husband and I moved to Bedford Park a year and a half ago from Park Slope... We love Bedford Park, and do all of our errands in Norwood on 204th Street. We also go to the Williamsbridge Oval almost daily. You do not have to pay to use the Oval, but if you're interested in using their athletic center, you'll have to pay for that. I'm sure it's pretty darn cheap though. Every time I'm walking around the Oval I'm pleasantly surprised by how much I love it there... it's very safe and beautifully maintained.
You are right, there are not great dining options. There's a mediocre diner on 204th near the McDonald's, and a great Mexican take out place all the way down 204th on the corner of Webster. A few nice deli's and great pizza though... And yes, there are still a few old school Irish pubs, McDwyer's and McMahon's. You'll still see a few old school Irish people floating around, but they're few and far between. It's mostly working class Hispanics, with a few young professional and hipster types thrown in. Montefiore is a hugely stabilizing presence in the neighborhood.
The block you are looking at is extremely cute... In fact, my husband and I always say we'd love to someday own a house there. You're right near the D train, and the 4 train is within walking distance as well (although a bit further, and wouldn't be my first choice for coming home late from work - in my opinion the D would be safer). We actually have a blog in which we've profiled the housing on Rochambeau... We talk about the Norwood/Bedford Park area quite a bit on the blog.
As for Mosholu Parkway, I have never once felt unsafe strolling at various times of morning/day/dusk. And I'm a white 20-somthing usually pushing a baby stroller, so I'd be a pretty darn easy target. We have been soooooooo pleasantly surprised with all the green space and walking options for hanging out with our 9 month old. And of course you know the NY Botanical Garden is a stone's throw away, and the Bronx Zoo and Arthur Avenue are about a 20 minute walk away.
Yes, everybody is telling you "check out Woodlawn"... Woodlawn is super cute, and very stable. But that's not where your cheap real estate deal is! If you're getting a nice price on a nice place, I think you should walk around the hood and seriously consider the offer. Don't expect to be blown away by how nice it is, but don't judge the hood based on all us crazy internet geeks. Walk around with your wife, get dinner at the mediocre diner and see if you can picture yourself there. Then open up a damn restaurant on 204th and my husband and I will be your best customers!

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Old 10-11-2008, 03:56 PM
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Hi El Lunchador. Thanks for the nice response. I have come across your blog and I am glad you post often. I have been checking it 2x a day for a while now. I thought the Oval being pay would be a good thing to make it safer but if you say its safe I believe you. I did find the diner you talking about:
American Diner, Bronx, NY

I shouldn't be eating there anyway

I wish Google Street view shot Norwood later in the day. From the coffee carts and lack of people around I am guessing it was 7 or 8:00AM... hard to determine how many people would be on the streets at 6pm, etc... but yeah... I need to just get there already.

From what I've read it does seem most people think its safe there. Do people in the Bronx participate in Neighborhood Watches? Everyone has an alarm system?

Well ok... any other tidbits about the area I will be happy to read about. Thanks!
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Old 10-11-2008, 04:21 PM
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From what I understand back in the 80's when things in the hood were not too hot, our community participated in a neighborhood watch. But nothing like that anymore... both 204 St/Norwood and most of Bedford Park area a stone's throw away from the 52nd Precinct headquarters, so there's a pretty heavy police presence. As for walking around at night... you'll find that 204th Street is constantly BUSTLING (almost to the point of annoyance). You're never alone doing your errands or near the subway stop there... tons of people always around. As for alarm systems, I don't know of really anyone who has anything beyond the traditional buzzer to let people into the building lobby. But as far as private houses, I'm really not sure. The biggest form of burglary I hear about (and was a victim of) are smashed windows on cars when you park overnight near the Mosholu service road... Apparently they always hit that area because it's dark, there aren't as many apartments buildings to hear the smashing, and there's grass to catch the broken glass quietly. This only happens late, late at night. It's terrible and offensive, but we've just learned to not park in certain spots. Plus, this happens everywhere - my husband just saw the same situation where he works on 89th and Park Avenue - just a city thing I suppose.
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Old 10-11-2008, 04:26 PM
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I say it's block by block. Some blocks look really run down and others are ok. The thing is that there are alot of car crimes up there. The lower income residents from University Heights and Fordham-Bedford go up to the wealthier Norwood and commit G.L.A, robberies and burglary. I know this because I spoke to an officer from the 52nd, and he told me about the bulk of crimes comitted up there.

Really it depends on where you are up there.
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Old 10-11-2008, 04:30 PM
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Yeah I remember when I lived in NYC in the 80s I had a "No Radio" sign on the window of my car. AH memories. I guess today we need a "No GPS" sign . Sorry to hear about your car window though... good info you added here... much thanks!
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Old 10-11-2008, 04:32 PM
Location: Morrisania, Bronx
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The good thing about Norwood and Bedford Park is, that if you can't find anything that you want there, Fordham Road's not too far. Plus, you Norwood folks get seats easily on the D train since 205th St is the first/last stop on the line.
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Old 10-11-2008, 04:54 PM
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Good point about getting a seat. I've read its probably not a good idea to listen to an ipod on the subway in the Bronx... true? I think if I just sit there doing nothing I'd stand out as more of a freak. I think most of the time Ill take a bus.
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