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Old 08-05-2008, 02:09 PM
 
Location: NYC
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People in San Fran walk something like six blocks total every day. For one thing, there are too many hills for considerable walking. Any time I've been there and go walking I see very few people doing the same. Here in NYC everyone walks everywhere all the time. Thumbs down on that stupid list.
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Old 08-05-2008, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Everything's rigged, get used to it. Everything is especially rigged in anyone but NY's favor... . People just (ignorantly) love to hate the best city in the world .
You, of course, are absolutely right! They would sooner have declared the South Pole to be more walkable than New York.

And never mind the algorithms they used. What I want to know is, what city does the person who created this nonsense come from?
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Old 08-05-2008, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Bay Ridge, NY
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You, of course, are absolutely right! They would sooner have declared the South Pole to be more walkable than New York.

And never mind the algorithms they used. What I want to know is, what city does the person who created this nonsense come from?
I tried to find out, but the website made it difficult to figure out who exactly was rating things. It seems to be a panel of people, rather than one person, so meh..
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Old 08-05-2008, 04:47 PM
 
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It's just another example of a meaningless statistic. SF is walkable, but not more than NY. Actuality trumps numbers.
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Old 08-05-2008, 05:24 PM
 
Location: East Village, NYC
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No body walks in LA.

Due to the intense "scaffold-ization" of Manhattan, it's not surprising it's losing it's #1 walkable slot.
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Old 08-05-2008, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Bay Ridge, NY
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What does scaffolding have to do with walking?
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Old 08-05-2008, 06:31 PM
 
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This list is probably like the U.S. News and World Report rankings of best colleges.

Ultimately, they are a for-profit operation that needs to sell magazines (or website visits).

If their list was the same every year, no one would buy their product. They have to change their methodology, because the cities listed don't change very much (except perhaps the intense urbanization of Washington, DC and its inner ring suburbs).
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Old 08-05-2008, 07:35 PM
 
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The key here is that a substantial portion of New York City is not walkable. Most of Staten Island, half of Queens, and small parts of Brooklyn and a small part of the Bronx score low in walkability.

That doesn't change the fact that Manhattan is the most walkable place in the US... Manhattan isn't its own city. San Francisco is comparatively small and the vast majority of people in the Bay Area don't live in San Francisco itself. So it's a misleading statistic to say that SF is more walkable, but it is technically true because it doesn't have as many suburban areas within its city limits.
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Old 08-06-2008, 03:36 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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The key here is that a substantial portion of New York City is not walkable. Most of Staten Island, half of Queens, and small parts of Brooklyn and a small part of the Bronx score low in walkability.
And how, exactly, did you come to this determination? "Substantial portion?" Pardon me for saying so, but you're facing 180 degrees in the wrong direction.
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Old 08-06-2008, 06:15 AM
 
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And how, exactly, did you come to this determination? "Substantial portion?" Pardon me for saying so, but you're facing 180 degrees in the wrong direction.
I think what he means is that the portions of "less than walkable" areas in NYC are a larger percentage of the total areas of NYC. They computed the walkscore of the cities involved based on the overall walk score of the entire city. So this list doesn't mean that neighborhoods in SF are more walkable than NYC. It simply says that wherever you live in SF, you're more likely to have a walkable lifestyle. In NYC, you have to pick the right neighborhoods for that because as some posters have mentioned, several neighborhoods in Staten Island, the Bronx, Queens and Brooklyn might not have the walkable lifestyle of Manhattan or some of the more built-up areas of Queens, Brooklyn, and the Bronx.

If the list only took Manhattan as NYC and compared that to SF, Manhattan would definitely trounce SF and it won't even be close. But there are other neighborhoods in NYC that aren't as walk/commute-friendly, so people DO have cars. Not all parts of NYC are like Manhattan, and some of them are actually pretty nice like Mill Basin in Brooklyn and Fieldston in the Bronx.
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