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08-05-2008, 04:08 AM
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If you visit the site and click on "walkability," you see how they define the term. Then it's immediately suspicious that the three most walkable neighborhoods in New York should be located in Manhattan. By their own definition, virtually every neighborhood in all five boroughs should be exceptionally walkable.
So now let's do the math. New York is the largest city in the United States. Largest city = more neighborhoods. There's no way New York could fall to No. 2 on such a list...unless that list was rigged. I think that whoever created the website either has a pretty skewed view of cities in the United States (Portland, OR should be higher than No. 10 by these standards, for instance), or an ulterior motive.
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08-05-2008, 05:31 AM
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This list is extremely suspect.. how is L.A. even in this list? It's not like they only did major cities.. Long Beach is there!
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08-05-2008, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by analyticalkeys
This list is extremely suspect.. how is L.A. even in this list? It's not like they only did major cities.. Long Beach is there!
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That's a good question. LA is pretty much a supersized suburb and almost everyone drives.
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08-05-2008, 09:23 AM
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Los Angeles is not a walkable city, unless we're talking about hiking.
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08-05-2008, 09:40 AM
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I agree that the criteria by which this list was generated seems to have issues in the real world. New York is infinitely more walkable than LA and even DC, which are not as pedestrian-friendly in many places. Yes, there are neighborhoods in which one can walk in both cities, but it's not the same as New York where one can walk juist about anywhere in any of the boroughs with relative ease.
The methodology of the list has known issues to the algorithym used that includes not factoring important aspects that contribute to walkability, including public transportation, street design, crime/accidents, and climate. This is probably why the list appears skewed to many who know the cities listed, since some have a high score by this methodology, but the reality of the true picture is different than the results generated.
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08-05-2008, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by analyticalkeys
This list is extremely suspect.. how is L.A. even in this list? It's not like they only did major cities.. Long Beach is there!
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Really I am too. How is Boston on the list, how can you walk there without being nearly hit by angry m@ssholes on every street corner? 
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08-05-2008, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Fred314X
If you visit the site and click on "walkability," you see how they define the term. Then it's immediately suspicious that the three most walkable neighborhoods in New York should be located in Manhattan. By their own definition, virtually every neighborhood in all five boroughs should be exceptionally walkable.
So now let's do the math. New York is the largest city in the United States. Largest city = more neighborhoods. There's no way New York could fall to No. 2 on such a list...unless that list was rigged. I think that whoever created the website either has a pretty skewed view of cities in the United States (Portland, OR should be higher than No. 10 by these standards, for instance), or an ulterior motive.
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Everything's rigged, get used to it. Everything is especially rigged in anyone but NY's favor...  . People just (ignorantly) love to hate the best city in the world  .
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08-05-2008, 10:39 AM
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since they used san Francisco City vs all of NYC, I'm not surprised. Let's see what kind of walkable score sf would get overall if it took over 250 mi sq of its neighboring cities.
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08-05-2008, 11:58 AM
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I agree with the others who have noted that the inclusion of L.A. on this list makes it pretty laughable.
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