New York vs. Philadelphia (Montgomery, Chester: crime, new construction, schools)

[analyticalkeys]

Originally Posted by NYCBoy1212

No you can actually tell the difference look at the picture carefully

I can tell the difference, but we're not looking for a picture perfect translation.. cities don't look exactly the same because they were all designed by different people; there's just some basic similarities.

[Rachael84]

Originally Posted by welder

Why is everyone so defensive here? I never said I disliked Philly? I seen some beautiful rowhouses posted here, and when I lived there. Are the rowhouses in Rittenhouse affordable? The city center neighborhoods has rowhouses that sell for millions. Is that cheap? To me, Philly is more Pittsburgh like, than NYC. Ya Philly is more happening than Pittsburgh. Alot more dead than Chicago though, and certainly nowhere near NYC. Thats my opinon. Philly feels like a modern day 18th century city to me. Bestsy Ross's house doesnt even look to out of place. I could almost imagine Ben Franklin walking down them streets when I lived ther. All them narrow streets and history. NYC feels so much more modern. I know its rich in its own history. But I dont feel it when walking down the streets here. You know the first time I ever worked at the the US STEEL plant (Edgor Thompson) in Braddock (just outside the city of Pitt), the history I could feel running through my vains. That was Andrew Carnegie's first steel mill. He was the Bill Gates of a hundred yrs ago, for those who never heard of him. Thats the kinda feelings Id get In Philly, and Pa. in general in alot of areas. Never really got that feeling in NYC. I had a vegas cabbie, who was born an raised in the Bronx, tell me that Vegas and NYC are just alike. I dont see the comparision, but he did. The east coast is EXPENSIVE! Whether your talking DC, Boston, Nyc, Philly, etc. And u BURN with an ACCETYLINE torch, and WELD with a STINGER.

I've gotten "that" feeling walking around the lower east side. I feel like it hasn't gone through as much change as the rest of Manhattan. Although there aren't really any mom and pop type shops anymore, I see pictures from the early 1900s and it seems like it's gone through less change than most other areas.

[NYCBoy1212]

Originally Posted by Rachael84

I've gotten "that" feeling walking around the lower east side. I feel like it hasn't gone through as much change as the rest of Manhattan. Although there aren't really any mom and pop type shops anymore, I see pictures from the early 1900s and it seems like it's gone through less change than most other areas.

well thats about to change, the city already approved a rezoning for the LES

[Rachael84]

Originally Posted by NYCBoy1212

well thats about to change, the city already approved a rezoning for the LES

Oh well, there goes one of the few sections in the city that still seems vintage to me.

[welder]

See, u said it yourself, " There's goes one of the 'few' sections in the city that still seems vintage". Walk or drive around around Philly. You wont have that problem. Because they did a good job of retaining alot of the "vintage stuff". Some of the stuff in Philly, early 1900's would almost be considered new. Things like Besty Ross's house, are still intact there. NYC feels way more modern than Philly. They would have level that city and start from scratch to look modern. Them streets are so narrow there. Like I said before, it's a modern day version of an 18th century city. That's not an insult either. Not to many places in the country have their look or feel (pittsburgh in some spots). And Philly has some of the most important history in our country. Actually, our country began in Philly. How much more important can u get that that!

[NYCBoy1212]

Originally Posted by welder

See, u said it yourself, " There's goes one of the 'few' sections in the city that still seems vintage". Walk or drive around around Philly. You wont have that problem. Because they did a good job of retaining alot of the "vintage stuff". Some of the stuff in Philly, early 1900's would almost be considered new. Things like Besty Ross's house, are still intact there. NYC feels way more modern than Philly. They would have level that city and start from scratch to look modern. Them streets are so narrow there. Like I said before, it's a modern day version of an 18th century city. That's not an insult either. Not to many places in the country have their look or feel (pittsburgh in some spots). And Philly has some of the most important history in our country. Actually, our country began in Philly. How much more important can u get that that!

woah, woah, woah, you take things to seriously. NYC has more grounding laws than philly. If you believe we get rid of historical things you must be crazy because of what one person said changes everything. I mean like our downtown is more historic than yours. We keep old buildings but builnew ones. We usually build new ones when its needed, wanted,; also we get rid of old ones that cant be used, burnt down, or empty lots. Thats what most of the rezonings are

[john_starks]

Originally Posted by NYCBoy1212

well thats about to change, the city already approved a rezoning for the LES

yeah, it already took place imo when they dissolved some of those great orchard & ludlow bars for condos and a HoJo

[welder]

woah nothing. No city tears down stuff with true historic vaule. In fact homes the are deemed historical, have to be restored to a code in cetain cities or towns. Philly's is not MY downtown or my (hometown). Id say the city where the DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE was SIGNED, can hang with NYC as far as history goes. Do a search and see how many things were first in PITTSBURGH and PHILLY. By first, I mean INVENTED or happen there first. Example, first movie theater? Pittsburgh. First gas station, Pittsburgh. First ball park, Pittsburgh. First world series game ever played, Pittsburgh,etc. You get the idea. And Philly has a whole buch of first too. NYC cant be first in everthing, that includes history. Dont forget, Philly was bigger and MORE important way back then. Something to keep in mind. Philly doesnt have to bow down to no one when it comes to history! The founding fathers resided there. Not in Tribeca or the UES! LOL LOL LOL

[DITC]

but Philly has no important history after 1900. It went from Declaration of Independence, first stock exchange, first this in American history, first that in American history, to YAY WE HAVE A STATUE OF A MOVIE CHARACTER. There is about 100 years in between where Philly is ghost from American history

Thats why places like Chicago, Atlanta, Austin TX, and tiny Stamford CT have better job prospects than Philly. Philly peaked in the 1800s, and the people are content with all this "first" history stuff and put all their eggs in Eagles football basket nowadays

[welder]

I aint from Philly. In fact, people were up in arms cause I said that Philly wasnt as cheap as people were making it out to be. I was talking about the apt rents. Id rather live here than there. As far as the history goes, it's HISTORY. It's something that once was, or once happenned. But u brushing it off like nothing, I dont agree with that. U act like Philly went from signing a piece of paper, to Stallone running up the steps was it. Go look an see what they and pittsburgh can claim to be first in. Somethings that u do or see can date back to them two cities. It almost seems like u are irritated that Philly beat NYC to the punch on some things. Maybe im wrong. But the way u worded it, almost looks that way. Im not from Philly, nor am I trying to raise it's statue. But I give any place or city its props when deserved. Philly has some of the most important history this country has to offer. The men who resided there formed our country and the freedoms we enjoy today. Philly's history might have been a ghost for the last hundred yrs. Thats ok though, they've made ENOUGH to last a ETERNITY.