train from bronx to queens (salaries, buses, design)

[COOLSCREENNAME]

is it that hard to get to the bronx from queens why they didnt make a subway line going to the bronx and northeastern part of queens which most needed. the Q44 takes very long very very crowded and always hot espeacilly during the summer

[analyticalkeys]

The same can be said for Queens to Brooklyn.. they designed the trains to go to Manhattan, because that's where everyone needed to go for work and such.

[NooYowkur81]

Originally Posted by COOLSCREENNAME

is it that hard to get to the bronx from queens why they didnt make a subway line going to the bronx and northeastern part of queens which most needed. the Q44 takes very long very very crowded and always hot espeacilly during the summer

When the subway system was built, they unfortunately didn't have the foresight to plan effective transportation within the outer-boroughs. As more and more jobs are being pushed out of the city (Manhattan) and into outer-boroughs and surrounding burbs, this is becoming a real problem.

[Moderate Guy]

Originally Posted by NooYowkur81

When the subway system was built, they unfortunately didn't have the foresight to plan effective transportation within the outer-boroughs. As more and more jobs are being pushed out of the city (Manhattan) and into outer-boroughs and surrounding burbs, this is becoming a real problem.

They still seem to lack both wisdom and foresight. What do all those fat salaries and free rides for the MTA big shots get us? Can't somebody in there take a break from sitting in their fancy offices and go outside and see what's happening?

Okay, the original intent was to direct all trains to Manhattan. Now as NooYowkur pointed out, some jobs are being pushed out to the outer boroughs. Would it kill them to get more buses now to travel between the Bronx and Queens rather than pack hard working commuters into the few buses going back and forth?

I suspect it would kill them as who cares what happens between the outer boroughs. Manhattan is what counts. No wonder everybody and thir brother thinks NYC = Manhattan only. It starts from the top.

[K 22]

I think I read somewhere that the Whitestone Bridge was built with the mindset of having a line run underneath it but Robert Moses (the mind behind the Cross Bronx Expressway and rampant subway hater) put a stop to it.

[Bronx-Rochester]

This is the reason that it's so ****ing hard to get from The Bronx to Queens: you have to take a train to either 59 st. or 42 st. to take a either the 7, N, W, R or E trains

[Blackbeauty212]

Originally Posted by analyticalkeys

The same can be said for Queens to Brooklyn.. they designed the trains to go to Manhattan, because that's where everyone needed to go for work and such.

BK to QNS has the G

Although it hasnt Ran on Qns Blvd on weekends in eons like its suppose to; but the line is there.

[bmwguydc]

I do believe that it is correct that it is the legacy of Robert Moses why the interconnectedness of the Bronx and Queens is so lacking today. It would be good to have this addressed, since the buses are woefully inadequate for a state-of-the-art transportation system.

[Fred314X]

In fact the Whitestone Bridge was designed to carry a mass transit line (so was the Verrazano-Narrows, for that matter). Such routes could be built, assuming both the state and city decided to go that route. State, because it controls MTA, and city, because demands from residents would create a lot of political pressure. I wouldn't call it likely, but it's definitely possible.

Incidentally, Miles, you're absolutely right about where MTA puts its priorities. That's the reason why they're always playing fast and loose with the G line--the only one in the system that doesn't go into Manhattan--and have VERY little respect for the J (although ridership on that line is pretty healthy) which doesn't go anywhere near midtown.

[Blackbeauty212]

Originally Posted by Fred314X

In fact the Whitestone Bridge was designed to carry a mass transit line (so was the Verrazano-Narrows, for that matter). Such routes could be built, assuming both the state and city decided to go that route. State, because it controls MTA, and city, because demands from residents would create a lot of political pressure. I wouldn't call it likely, but it's definitely possible.

Incidentally, Miles, you're absolutely right about where MTA puts its priorities. That's the reason why they're always playing fast and loose with the G line--the only one in the system that doesn't go into Manhattan--and have VERY little respect for the J (although ridership on that line is pretty healthy) which doesn't go anywhere near midtown.

The trio of the JMZ goes nowhere near Mid-town, but yet they're the first to get the new computer trains over the E which is bursting as the seams durning rushours and has the oldest trains in the systems.

So no-one can figure the MTA priorities out.