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09-09-2008, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by futurebird
I live just north of Mott Haven. It's not that rough anymore. I'm not saying it's not rough at all, but there are some really lovely things about the area. (Community gardens, I was just at this festival where they gave away free Garlic grown right in the Bronx.) Due to it's AWFUL reputation you end up getting a much better value when you buy there. And it's so damn close to the city-- it has some nice places to eat and relax.
I can't say where the worst area in the city is... but I think that anyplace with bad subway access is not a good idea. You need to be on the trains.
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Agree with the last line. If you live in an infamous "double-fare zone," the vibe of the neighborhood will feel isolated and boring. If you live in a more dense neighborhood with excellent train access, you feel a better and more "flavorful" vibe.
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09-14-2008, 11:38 AM
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Was Soundview or is it still...
considered a "step up" from the Area west of the Bx River? 2 decades ago I knew someone who lived on 141 street and Beekman Ave and they spoke of a plan to move to Soundview, I recall them speaking positively of it
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09-14-2008, 11:56 AM
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considered a "step up" from the Area west of the Bx River? 2 decades ago I knew someone who lived on 141 street and Beekman Ave and they spoke of a plan to move to Soundview, I recall them speaking positively of it
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The Soundview section closest to Hunts Point is as bad as any neighborhood west of it. It is basically an extention of Hunts Point. Sratford, Elder, Wheeler, Westchester, Watson, Boynton, Rosedale etc etc those and others are terrible streets. The person was probably reffering to the eastern section of Soundview, closer to Castle Hill. That area was not affected as much by blight.
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09-21-2008, 12:06 AM
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I really don't know myself. In my opinion, Brownsville and East New York are easily THE worst 2 hoods in NYC.
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I'll second that my family used to live in Brownsville on Mother Gaston(some still do). When I was a kid I never thought twice aobut visiting them. I would as often as possible. But now that I am an adult it kind of frightens me a little. I dont feel comfortable so I stay away.
The East...I never really had to thing about it was always a no no
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09-21-2008, 12:19 AM
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Mr.Triny33, your not alone with your first assumption about NYC being the only city with bad hoods. Alot of Ny'ers have that impression. I posted that before in prior posts. There are bad dudes and bad hoods, from coast to coast. There's people who visit mannhattan and think its bad. Most people making 6 firgure incomes lose their egde to me. I never felt unsafe in mannhattan. But I guess yrs ago, it was alot different. I feel safer in the south bronx, than in Gary, Indiana. There's ALOT of places in the deep south, that are scary as well. Some of that poverty looks like 3rd world down there.
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NYC is not that bad overall compare to Chicago. If some NYC people really want to see some bad hoods, come to Englewood, Roseland, HUmboldt Park, or Lawndale in Chicago. Gary, IN pretty rough as well, and so is some Chicago suburbs. Cabrini Green & Robert Taylor projects in Chicago was rough as well before they tore them down.
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09-21-2008, 12:32 AM
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There is. I don't like to put this out there but I used roll with Growth & Development. Don't ask what it is, but there are alot of Crips here as I said before and some fake dipset Bloods, 9-3 Gangsters on both the east side and the west side, some Brims, Latin Kings (they hate the Bloods up here as in NYC they are actually aligning), alot of Black P Stones on Portland ave and alot of smaller local gangs.
There is a saying that just about everyone in Rochester is in a gang.
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So you use to roll with Gangster Discples( Thats what they are called here in Chicago)? I didn't know NYC had Black P. Stones and GDs but the motherland for the gang is Chicago ; and Latin Kings are also a Chicago gang. Is the Latin Kings in NYC very violent ?
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09-21-2008, 12:37 AM
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NYC is not that bad overall compare to Chicago. If some NYC people really want to see some bad hoods, come to Englewood, Roseland, HUmboldt Park, or Lawndale in Chicago. Gary, IN pretty rough as well, and so is some Chicago suburbs. Cabrini Green & Robert Taylor projects in Chicago was rough as well before they tore them down.
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I could tell you the same thing. You want to see bad? Take a stroll through East Harlem, Bedford-Stuyvesant, Mott Haven etc
There are hoods everywhere. No hood is safer than another. The only thing that makes a city more dangerous than another is having more hoods. Chicago has more hoods than NYC. But they aren't any worse.
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09-21-2008, 12:49 AM
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I could tell you the same thing. You want to see bad? Take a stroll through East Harlem, Bedford-Stuyvesant, Mott Haven etc
There are hoods everywhere. No hood is safer than another. The only thing that makes a city more dangerous than another is having more hoods. Chicago has more hoods than NYC. But they aren't any worse.
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You are right, Thats absolutely true. A perfect example of what your city would look like if it is mostly hoods is Detroit. I got to give NYC its props, it came a long way of what it use to be back in the early 1990s and is now one of the safest big city in the country.
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09-21-2008, 02:17 AM
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So you use to roll with Gangster Discples( Thats what they are called here in Chicago)? I didn't know NYC had Black P. Stones and GDs but the motherland for the gang is Chicago ; and Latin Kings are also a Chicago gang. Is the Latin Kings in NYC very violent ?
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True. I keep that to myself but there are a few GD's in the east Bronx, Queens and Brooklyn. Much respect to the Chi. The Latin Kings here are now tolerating the Bloods here banging their 5!!!
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09-21-2008, 05:54 PM
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yes in east harlem condos are going for upwards of 700 or more and selling
so yes the old element is still there but the buying and moving in of the new element continues, as it does in bed sty .... where houses are going for
if these places are so bad, why are people that can buy in NJ and Long Island and connecticut buying there and they have not just start buying there
Last edited by Viralmd; 09-21-2008 at 06:01 PM..
Reason: Rude/personal attack
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