Remebering 9/11

[~NeonFire~]

I wasn't affected by 9/11 directly however I remember it very clearly and I have loads of sympathy for the people that were affected by the terrible tragedy.

[Morphous01]

Rudbeckia, and others, why is it that if one person chooses to go against the grain people like me are always vilified and discredited? That's a rhetorical question as I already know the answer.


Story short, I have formed my OWN conclusions based on information that is available for all of us to see, as well as information that had to be dug up because the Government conveniently left it out of textbooks, news outlets, and out of the speeches that the empty suits you call politicians give. By the way, no political figure can save us; we need to save ourselves; but I digress.


If you do any kind of research you will find that the ONLY medium of information that isn't controlled by the government is the internet. Everything you watch on T.V is either a diversion or it's there to carefully control and tailor your mind to believe specific beliefs. Your mind is much like a computer; it has to be programed.


Have you ever wondered why all the news channels look the same and report on the same issues in the same way? Or do you take it in like a baby nursing on its mothers milk then go to work? Nobody ruffles feathers like a true reporter should, if they did; they would be fired or politically assassinated. Why?


I'm sorry too tell you, if you do not know, but all but elections are fixed. Elections have been fixed in some way shape or form going back to Honest Abe. Why?


You people learn in school(that "they" built)all about what goes on in the fount end of the political system and how it's suppose to work, but "they" never tell you about the BACK END of politics; its not meant for you to know.


There are many tactics that go on to manipulate you. "They" create problems, then swoop in and fix it, but when they fix it they gain more power (9/11). When a choice needs to be made, instead of forcing it on you "they" give you a few options to make you "feel in control" because you made a decision,, but unknown to you is that they own and control ALL the options regardless of which one you pick (elections).


It's very easy to see this people, but because they got you working hard on your hamster wheel(work, bills) and now worrying about terrorists at the same time; now your mind is full. "They" then say, "its these people over here that hurt us", you then say, "ok, lets get them and kill them" not even thinking about the women and children that will be hurt or killed in the process. How can you let this happen when you have done no investigation on your own!

Ha, little kids do this. Ever get your big brother to beat up a kid that done no harm to you just because you could? Your big bro did the deed because he believed you and you played on his instincts to protect his sibling.


Let me make myself clear, there are extremely wealthy parasites that function on the top of the pyramid structure that work THROUGH Government that you will NEVER see in the media who control each and every aspect of YOUR life down to what brand of toothpaste you use each morning. Common sense should tell you that for your own safety you need to find out who these people are.


Please, prove me wrong; in fact, I want you to research my beliefs. You will be amazed at how everything is connected (religion+politics) and how there is a hidden world within the world that most of you believe is real. This hidden underworld is the "real world" that creates the majority of problems that we face everyday with the most horrific one being war.

Being that we are in such a financial mess, a good area to start is with the Federal Reserve System. Who are the founders who formed it on Jekyll Island and why was it secret meeting? To this day, why is it held as a PRIVATE company? How can the Federal Reserve issue money if the Constitution states that only congress can issue currency for legal tender?

[Morphous01]

Originally Posted by Fred314X

I didn't mean to say that I think the war on terror is manufactured. I think it's genuine

Fred, never be afraid to speak your mind or state your beliefs. History proves that there were times when the majority were completely wrong.


Morphous01

[Rudbeckia]

Morphous- I have had to much wine tonight to dive into this entire thread, but I may tackel it tomorrow

In the mean time I will post a few questions.......

Do you really believe all of our news station provide fabricated information, our elections are fixed, 9/11 was a goverment tactic to manipulate Americans, and there are wealthy omnipotent goverment officals controling everything down to the touthpaste we use????


You live in Philadelphia right?? If you honestly believe the things you are saying, how can you choose to live in America?

The federal reserve is a private company, I understand that, but it does not function the way you think a private company would, right? The last sentence in your post is misleading I think , but I would have to do some research on it.

[Alt Dach]

I remember thinking,Gee we've been attacked by Saudi Arabians-they're going to get it now!
Wrong again.

[Moderate Guy]

Originally Posted by Morphous01

Fred, never be afraid to speak your mind or state your beliefs. History proves that there were times when the majority were completely wrong.


Morphous01

History also proves more often than not that the majority is usually on to something correct.

[Morphous01]

Rudbeckia,




First, let me say that, I'm no authority figure, nor do I want to be. History proves that people tend not to live too long when they start to acquire this type of knowledge; then spread it. I only ended up with this knowledge because I'm naturally curious, and I did not fully believe "the system" that was presented to me from birth.


It's a very simple process, the truth seekers (which I am) over time gather knowledge about the "real world," many of them have written books or spoke out against it; (i.e. Jesus). Unfortunately, as I stated, many have met an untimely death. This knowledge is then left for us to pick up and continue on; if its not destroyed. Don't you see? Its one BIG battle going baaaak and forrrrthhh.... ... ...


Uhhh, so much blood the earth has absorbed from all of this. Mother earth has seen it ALL. Cut a tree in half, in the rings you will see what happend 100+years ago; but I digress.




Now, lets take your last post line by line. Do I believe all our news stations provide fabricated information?

The answer to this question is yes and no. What the media does is report BS story's in order to take your mind off the real issues. For example, if the president wants to send more troops into Afghanistan he knows if the news reports on that, it will cause a uproar throughout the USA. So what they do is report on other story's, which in fact are true, however, you don't realize that they are doing you a major disservice because they aren't telling you what you NEED to know! How can you make the best possible decision if you don't have all the facts or no facts/info at all?

Do you really need to know if the Miami Dolphins won or if Paris Hilton is opening up a new club when a group of young soldiers were burnt alive in a tank in the middle east that got hit by a ambush (this happened)?

Btw, I have no proof, but, I believe Pat Tillman was murdered. I believe he was going to come back to the states and tell the American people what was really going on. But hay, Americans don't care, it wasn't there son/dad.

I could go on about the media but I suggest that you study who owns the media and from there you will see a conflict of interest. As they say, always follow the money. On a side note, if you want to create more time for yourself and minimize the damage being done to your conscious and subconscious mind, I suggest you cancel your cable and give your T.V/HD away and pick up a book. Books pre 1900's.. Most books written now are junk. A book in 2008 can't hold a candle to a book written in 1778. What do you think happened?



Are elections fixed?
Yes.



Was 9/11 a government tactic to manipulate Americans?

Yes, but remember its not the American system that is bad its the hidden people that run your life THROUGH government. If you are mad a Bush then they are doing there job correct. Bush has no power, he is just a puppet, if he slips then he will wind up like JFK. People rule through secrecy. Speaking on JFK, and the Federal Reserve System in the post before this, why would JFK in 1963 sign a document that gave him legal clearance to create interest and debt free money for the American people?




Are there wealthy omnipotent government officials controlling everything down to the toothpaste we use????

I'm not trying to be funny but why do you use toothpaste? Do you know that you can use tea tree oil and baking soda mix that will last you a much longer time and cost you less?

My hole point is, cooperate America dominates the average American life, and its spreading. Everywhere you go, and everywhere you look corporate America is trying to sell you some cheep mass produced product with a fake smile! If you study Sigmund Freud you will find that many of your materialistic desires are manufactured. Later the Government got in on it. Youtube, The Century of Self and you will see.

BTW, I hope you don't drink tap water, its got fluoride in it. Oh, you don't mind? Why don't you do some research as to WHY fluoridated water was given to the prisoners in Germany in 1938-1945.



If you honestly believe the things you are saying, how can you choose to live in America?

This is a good question, if fact, I thought about this all day of and on. The best answer I can give you is that man is not meant to live alone. I have thought about moving to some island or remote country but I would not be happy because I need to be around positive humans to give away energy as well as to absorb it. Secondly, you must always remember that evil is always around you ready to jump on you at any moment. Pure evil resides in many homes, churches, governmental buildings, neighborhoods, towns, ect, but unfortunately people don't want to look at it; so it grows...



The federal reserve is a private company, I understand that, but it does not function the way you think a private company would, right?

Not too sure what you mean.




So end the end, do you see that's coming, or what may already be here Rudbeckia?

Throughout the history of humans, man had to tame or control animals, Check. Man had to tame and control nature (Haarp technology). Check. Man during all this time was trying to do the same with man, but you can't fully concur a man until you concur his mind.

Did I say give your T.V/HD away? I'm sorry I meant blow it up!!!!

[Moderate Guy]

Originally Posted by Morphous01

Rudbeckia,




First, let me say that, I'm no authority figure, nor do I want to be. History proves that people tend not to live too long when they start to acquire this type of knowledge; then spread it. I only ended up with this knowledge because I'm naturally curious, and I did not fully believe "the system" that was presented to me from birth.


It's a very simple process, the truth seekers (which I am) over time gather knowledge about the "real world," many of them have written books or spoke out against it; (i.e. Jesus). Unfortunately, as I stated, many have met an untimely death. This knowledge is then left for us to pick up and continue on; if its not destroyed. Don't you see? Its one BIG battle going baaaak and forrrrthhh.... ... ...


Uhhh, so much blood the earth has absorbed from all of this. Mother earth has seen it ALL. Cut a tree in half, in the rings you will see what happend 100+years ago; but I digress.




Now, lets take your last post line by line. Do I believe all our news stations provide fabricated information?

The answer to this question is yes and no. What the media does is report BS story's in order to take your mind off the real issues. For example, if the president wants to send more troops into Afghanistan he knows if the news reports on that, it will cause a uproar throughout the USA. So what they do is report on other story's, which in fact are true, however, you don't realize that they are doing you a major disservice because they aren't telling you what you NEED to know! How can you make the best possible decision if you don't have all the facts or no facts/info at all?

Do you really need to know if the Miami Dolphins won or if Paris Hilton is opening up a new club when a group of young soldiers were burnt alive in a tank in the middle east that got hit by a ambush (this happened)?

Btw, I have no proof, but, I believe Pat Tillman was murdered. I believe he was going to come back to the states and tell the American people what was really going on. But hay, Americans don't care, it wasn't there son/dad.

I could go on about the media but I suggest that you study who owns the media and from there you will see a conflict of interest. As they say, always follow the money. On a side note, if you want to create more time for yourself and minimize the damage being done to your conscious and subconscious mind, I suggest you cancel your cable and give your T.V/HD away and pick up a book. Books pre 1900's.. Most books written now are junk. A book in 2008 can't hold a candle to a book written in 1778. What do you think happened?



Are elections fixed?
Yes.



Was 9/11 a government tactic to manipulate Americans?

Yes, but remember its not the American system that is bad its the hidden people that run your life THROUGH government. If you are mad a Bush then they are doing there job correct. Bush has no power, he is just a puppet, if he slips then he will wind up like JFK. People rule through secrecy. Speaking on JFK, and the Federal Reserve System in the post before this, why would JFK in 1963 sign a document that gave him legal clearance to create interest and debt free money for the American people?




Are there wealthy omnipotent government officials controlling everything down to the toothpaste we use????

I'm not trying to be funny but why do you use toothpaste? Do you know that you can use tea tree oil and baking soda mix that will last you a much longer time and cost you less?

My hole point is, cooperate America dominates the average American life, and its spreading. Everywhere you go, and everywhere you look corporate America is trying to sell you some cheep mass produced product with a fake smile! If you study Sigmund Freud you will find that many of your materialistic desires are manufactured. Later the Government got in on it. Youtube, The Century of Self and you will see.

BTW, I hope you don't drink tap water, its got fluoride in it. Oh, you don't mind? Why don't you do some research as to WHY fluoridated water was given to the prisoners in Germany in 1938-1945.



If you honestly believe the things you are saying, how can you choose to live in America?

This is a good question, if fact, I thought about this all day of and on. The best answer I can give you is that man is not meant to live alone. I have thought about moving to some island or remote country but I would not be happy because I need to be around positive humans to give away energy as well as to absorb it. Secondly, you must always remember that evil is always around you ready to jump on you at any moment. Pure evil resides in many homes, churches, governmental buildings, neighborhoods, towns, ect, but unfortunately people don't want to look at it; so it grows...



The federal reserve is a private company, I understand that, but it does not function the way you think a private company would, right?

Not too sure what you mean.




So end the end, do you see that's coming, or what may already be here Rudbeckia?

Throughout the history of humans, man had to tame or control animals, Check. Man had to tame and control nature (Haarp technology). Check. Man during all this time was trying to do the same with man, but you can't fully concur a man until you concur his mind.

Did I say give your T.V/HD away? I'm sorry I meant blow it up!!!!

Perhaps I am too unitiated and unsophisticated to follow the logic of your post or to see a central theme.

In my valiant struggle to see a cohesiveness or a theme that is acceptable within the parameters of ordinary logic, I am able only to remember the tale spun by Orson Wells so many decades ago to an unwitting crowd that alleged that the Martians had landed.